Libertarian Island Update

[gotlucky]

@triknighted

Anarchy means no rules, no system, no ethics, no establishment of any kind.

If you define anarchy as chaos, so be it. But just so that you are aware, many libertarians and especially people on this forum define anarchy as “without rulers”, which happens to be the etymology of the word.

@triknighted

From that point on, imho, it is very temporary as rules will inevitably be made, gangs will form, all of which is government. But it’ll be either a police state or a gangland, both of which are really bad.

It does not follow that from chaos there must necessarily be states or warring states. The other option is that there is a stateless society, which happens to be the one that many people here prefer.

@triknighted

Anarcho-capitalists have rules, such as not allowing government, not allowing theft, not allowing slavery . . . and so forth. Anarchists shouldn’t mind, though, since to want any sort of established rules or establishment is not anarchy.

Your definition of anarchy leads to some funny statements. Anarchists shouldn’t mind if their ideal society isn’t anarchy?

By the way, if you haven’t read these yet, I suggest you read What Law Is and A Praxeological Account of Law by forum member Clayton.

EDIT: Reworked second part for clarity.