I think it has its roots in many philosophies and religions, Christianity being a major influence actually.
Of course, some socialists would claim christianity as a major influence as well. Probably with more justification actually.
Christianity is statist anyway. Islam is way more anarchist in its teachings than Christianity is, and you can tell by how the Muslim world for the longest time had far freer markets and was way less statist up until the Europeans took it over then the Christian world was.
Islam in arabic means ‘submission’
up until the Europeans took it over
Uhuh. So are you going to pray 5 times a day while you’re in the woods living off berries?
Islam in arabic means ‘submission’
It’s a voluntary submission. I see nothing wrong with submission to authority if its voluntary. And submission to a god isnt the same as statism.
up until the Europeans took it over
Uhuh. So are you going to pray 5 times a day while you’re in the woods living off berries?
No. I dont believe in god. I’m just saying Islam is a way better and more libertarian religion then most of whats come out of the west.
What religions have originated in the West?
Protestantism for one. But Christianity in general is way less libertarian then Islam.
Yeah. Voluntary if you like burning for eternity.
Protestantism for one.
Which is a branch of Christianity.
My take is that Christianity until the Renaissance had very little to offer to a libertarian ideology, as it was just an other commie eastern religion (think Buddhism). It took pressure of the Islamic encirclement - and back than the Arabs had by far the most libertarian civilization that any part of the globe (save China, of course) had ever seen – to induce the catholic church to reform itself into what has become today the central undeniable influence on libertarianism.
The reformation helped further, as did Jews, as long as they were dispersed in smallish groups (as in the west) and not concentrated in massive territories (as in the east), since Judaism prescribes communism among members, and allows for capitalism with outsiders (thus the optimal distribution is of many small dispersed groups).
Libertarianism did come out of Christianity, but Christianity did come out of its original and biblical communism due to the influence and pressure of the other two Abrahamic religions.
it was just another commie eastern religion (think Buddhism)
l o l. Buddhism is commie?
It took pressure of the Islamic encirclement - and back than the Arabs had by far the most libertarian civilization that any part of the globe (save China, of course) had ever seen – to induce the catholic church to reform itself into what has become today the central undeniable influence on libertarianism.
Yes. Islam was incredibly libertarian for most of its history. The Ottoman Empire was extremely libertarian and gave minority groups self-rule and exempted them from most state taxes. It was the west and Christianity which were statist and backwards until they met Islamic influence.
Wait a minute… wait a minute… WAIT A MINUTE.
Survivalism, primitivism, decentralism and Islam… holy Shiite guys, I think F4M might be one of the Taliban.
At least that would have some consistency to it. But then he is also a white seperatist which contradicts the universalism of Islam. Rather than a Taliban he is just a big joke. Only one that’s repetitive and annoying.
I’m not Muslim. Im only arguing that Islamic society was much freer than christian society for most of history. I dont care what other people believe as long as they don’t involve me in it.
You’re not arguing. You don’t comprehend the meaning of arguing. You just repeat the same assertions over and over again without any attempt to back them up. You’re annoying.
Can you finally answer to my question F4M? Why did industrial revolution and huge accumulation of capital happen in Christian West if it’s so socialistic and why did ‘capitalistic’ East remain as a poor sand dune? Remember, West didn’t interve with the Arabs at that point of time.