Little Help

Hi, was sent this and need a little help in dissecting and refuting, thanks

I can’t fault the taxpayer for being upset with the deficit. I blame my profession, which has been spewing nonsense about government spending for decades. Economics is long-overdue for a renaissance. The deficit phobia, not the deficit itself, should be made public enemy #1. Taxpayers are decidedly working against their own interests when they demand that the government reduce or eliminate its deficit. Here is why:

Government deficits create non-government surpluses. It is a simple mathematical proposition; it is neither high theory, nor rocket science. If one sector spends more than it earns, another, by the rules of double-entry bookeeping, earns more than it spends. And so it is with the government—if it spends more than it collects in taxes, it runs a deficit, which is exactly equal to the surplus accumulated by the non-government sector. Deficits create income and profits for the private sector in excess of the taxes the private sector pays to the government. My fellow bloggers have explained this clearly many times before (e.g. here, here and here). What I’d like to impress upon the taxpayers is a simple logical flaw in their anger with the deficit itself.

If we want the government to “correct” its budget stance, then we must necessarily be offering to reverse ours. If we demand that the government run a surplus, then we are demanding that we, the private sector, run a deficit. If we are demanding that the government pay off its entire debt, then we must be demanding that every single private portfolio, retirement account, or college fund sacrifice its Treasury securities. Surely the private sector does not want that. The government’s deficit is someone else’s surplus and the government’s debt is someone else’s asset. If you would like to wipe out one, then you must be offering to wipe out the other.

Recall the Clinton surpluses. What was then considered to be a very ‘prudent’ government stance was in fact only possible because the private sector acted ‘imprudently’ and ran negative savings for many years. So, take your pick: would you like the private sector be in surplus or the government? You cannot have both. Presumably, we’d prefer the private sector to save and accumulate financial assets, which means that the government must run a deficit and accumulate financial liabilities (note again, that the foreign sector balance does not change this story). Because most people do not think about this basic accounting result, they tend to think that a responsible government is one that acts like a household, without recognizing that a ‘responsible’ government is possible only with an ‘irresponsible’ private sector behavior and vice versa. As Rob Parenteau has argued previously, the quest for fiscal sustainability may very well destabilize the private sector.

Since all of us agree that it is prudent for the private sector to accumulate savings, we must be in agreement that the prudent thing for the government to do is to allow us to be prudent by running deficits. In other words, a truly prudent government is one that does not mimic the behavior of the private sector, but one that offsets it.*

Even after people grasp this very basic logic, they still get hung up on the question “how long can the government keep running deficits and what if it goes bankrupt?” Here, too, we have to remember that government deficits are unlike those of the private sector. This is because the private sector cannot pay by issuing its own currency or create reserves at the stroke of a pen, but the federal government can. By constitutional right, it has monopoly powers over its currency and bank reserves and, therefore, always pays by creating such reserves when it credits the private bank accounts of its payees (see how the Fed and Treasury interact to make payments). The US government has a Central Bank that never bounces government checks and always makes good on government commitments.

In other words, there are no technical reasons why a nation with sovereign control over its currency, like the U.S., should ever go bankrupt—unless of course a misguided Congress places arbitrary political restrictions on the government to meet its financial obligations.

But just because government deficits can always be financed and just because government deficits create private sector surpluses, does it mean that all kinds of government spending are equally responsible? And the answer is clearly, NO.

A responsible government spending policy is not measured by some arbitrary accounting result called the deficit, but by the impact it has had on the real economy. This same sentiment has been echoed by others. (see here and here).

Different fiscal policies will have different effects on output, employment and inflation. It is on the basis of these effects that fiscal policy should be judged. Those of us, who have gone to great lengths to explain how such a modern money system works, have never advocated ‘printing money’ or deficit spending in unlimited amounts for anything and everything. I have argued elsewhere that a responsible government policy is not one that waits for months and years for the economy to recover to see job growth, but acts immediately and directly to create jobs without delay. In the latter case, spending is intimately linked to actual production and employment. The absence of direct job creation programs indicates a government that has not taken its responsibility to the unemployed seriously. Surely, unemployment insurance helps, but unemployed men and women want jobs, not the dole. Paying a pittance to the unemployed (who are not producing) is not the same thing as paying a living wage to those producing something of value.

If government deficit spending fills the coffers of the non-government sector with net financial assets, then a responsible government does so for all private sub-sectors in need, and links its deficit spending to actual employment and production. So while the government could not sit idly by and watch the global financial system collapse, a responsible policy would have immediately provided relief for households, small business owners, and states, all of whom have received inadequate assistance in comparison with the financial sector.
So while it is true that government deficits create non-government surpluses, the real question that taxpayers should be asking is, not how large the deficit is, but who benefits from the deficit and whose coffers does it fill?

If the deficit went to bailing out banks, then we know exactly who accumulated net financial assets. If we knew that the deficit saved state programs and prevented school shut downs, teacher layoffs and civil servant furloughs, then we would know that it is they who ‘received’ the deficit. If the deficit went towards massive infrastructure investment and direct job creation, we would know exactly which individuals and which firms got the funds and how many jobs and projects were created.

The taxpayers should not be angry with the deficit itself, but they are right to ask the question which sector is earning and accumulating net financial assets as a result of the government’s deficit spending. And with unemployment still close to 10 percent, personal bankruptcies and foreclosures unacceptably high, broken state budgets and disappearing public programs, and Wall Street bonuses sky high, I think the answer is quite clear.

Wall Street knows all too well that the government cannot go bankrupt, which is why it never objects when the government socializes its losses. Notice how financial gurus temporarily suspend their own deficit phobia until Wall Street’s balance sheets and incomes are restored. The average person, however, does not know that deficits are forever sustainable and that the government is not obligated to raise anyone’s taxes to ‘pay’ for them (see here a discussion on the role of taxes). And so the taxpayer does not demand from its government what the taxpayer genuinely wants and needs: more jobs, more infrastructure, better education, higher quality public services, and a standard of living that only a resource-rich nation as the U.S. can provide. It is time to stop buying into the deficit phobia and demand that the government deficit spend … responsibly.

If the government runs a balanced budget, that doesn’t mean that the public has to run a “deficit.” Both the government and the public can save more than they earn.

One problem with continual budget deficits is that eventually you’ll have to pay it back. If the government just keeps on borrowing to pay off it’s previous debt, sooner or later it will have to offer astronomical interest rates in order to get enough funds to pay off previous investors. Basically, if the government runs a debt Ponzi scheme, it will eventually fail. No institution, not even the government, can offer to pay back bonds with infinitely high interest rates.

This would only be true if the government were sitting on large piles of money of its own. The reality is that the government has no money of its own so its deficit spending is inherently inflationary (devalues the currency in the present without any offsetting increase in the value of the currency in the past), by the same “simple mathematical proposition” which the author implicitly employs, while neglecting the cashless state of the government.

I don’t care whether the government runs a surplus or a deficit - I want the government to stop stealing people’s property through taxation and inflation.

Oh my, yes, the end of the government’s bond-pyramid scheme would surely spell doom for civilization as we know it. [8-)]

Well, the past chicanery of the government (and its willing accomplices in the private sector) has put us in the uncomfortable position of having to decide who gets hurt when the music stops playing. If we had respected property rights from the outset, we would not be in this position. The first step is to start respecting property rights from here on out, the next step is a little more difficult but the basic principle is to untangle the property-rights violations created by the government’s various pyramid schemes in a way that, as sensibly as possible, allocates the assets to those who have the best claim to them. Rothbard has made a detailed proposal of how to liquidate the government’s real assets to settle its debts and other legitimate obligations.

Now, the author has made a false claim. The state can tax more than it spends without anyone individual or corporation in the private sector running a deficit or “negative savings”.

The author bizarrely claims that fiscal irresponsibility is inevitable. I guess if you live in Upside-Down-Backwards World, as most leftists do, that is the case.

A prudent government is one that stops taxing and regulating its citizens to death and debasing its currency. A prudent government is one that stops restricting free entry into the market and giving preferential legal treatment to its favorites. A prudent government is one that does not pick winners and losers and does not bail out bankrupt companies. A prudent government would be a non-entity in the daily lives of its subjects.

In other words, “Inflation is magic pixie dust that can make everyone rich!!” [8-)]

ZImbabwe is living proof of this. [;)]

The government cannot “create jobs” because jobs never get “lost” in the first place. The whole concept is the result of infantile reasoning.

Paying people to build pyramids is still just putting them on the dole, with the added insult of forcing them to slave away at useless tasks when they could be taking their leisure and at least enjoying their time which has been idled by stifling regulations and suffocating taxation.

What a bunch of gobbledy-gook.

Summary: “Inflate! Inflate! Inflate!”

Clayton -

You’re the man. Your dissection was perfect.

Just want to talk a little about the stuff that had me convinced at first reading. That would be the first few paragraphs. OK here goes:

First paragraph:

I think that settles it.

Clayton, I just copied this quote into my Bio page (with attribution, hope you don’t mind). It is a concise statement of the way things ought to be.

many thanks for the replies already recieved, this is the reply I gave:

Few Problems
1.) The whole basic premise just isn’t true, if the government runs a balanced budget or surplus, it doesn’t mean the public/non government sector has to run a “deficit”. Both can save more than they earn, (in the government’s case ‘earn’ is strictly in inverted commas).

2.) Deficit spending is inherently inflationary - I’m sure you know this and the problems this will cause.

3.) If the government just keeps on borrowing to pay off its previous debt sooner or later it will have to offer astronomical intersest rates in order to get enough funds to pay off previous investors.

4.) Regarding the constitutional right - federal government was never given the authority to issue paper currency.

5.) I quote “there are no technical reasons why a nation with sovereign control over its currency, like the U.S., should ever go bankrupt” – I’m fairly certain you know more history than this.

6.) Paying people to build pyramids is still just putting them on the dole, with the added insult of forcing them to slave away at useless tasks when they could be relaxing at their leisure and at least enjoying their time which has been idled away by stifling regulations and suffocating taxation.

7.) Although not strictly refered to I’m sure you imply the multipler effect will take place, this is simply erronous, just like every thing else in economics debt is subject to diminshining returns, these returns on debt will eventually turn negative, if they haven’t already done so.

8.) Recent research on debt to GDP ratio’s suggest when it rises above 90% this will have a significant effect on long-term growth – report fairly easy to find.

9.) Question – How is the private sector supposed to recover with government money drowning it out?

10.) Finally please tell this story to the Japanese.

Will return back with more later when I have read it more closely.

Regards

Dan

I realise that this isn’t entirely Austrian particually point 8, but I feel i have to talk to them on their level in order to be understood.

Anyone else got any more points and refutations?, because although I understood the satire, examples and points you have made my friends will not :frowning:

I don’t mind, I’m flattered. [:)]

Clayton -