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Just had this gem of a conversation with the campus book store lady:

Me: ‘Can i get this economics book please?’

Book lady: ‘For some reason the economics department decided somehow that the campus bookstore is making too much profit off their book, so they signed a contract with a bookstore out in town which of course the department got paid for. The campus bookstore makes a profit, but most of the profit goes back to the school. I dont understand what they are talking about, what does too much profit even mean?’

me: 'thats a great question, i dont see how someone could make ‘too much profit’ either.

Book lady: ‘ya thats what i thought too. Why would anyone buy my books if i charged more than the 4 or 5 bookstores out in town? You see, I’m used to the English and philosophy socialist teachers, but in economics?! How can these AMERICAN Universities claim to teach free market economics all while being socialists? I think the biggest problem with this country are the people that profess to be a capitalist and then preach socialist ideas in the name of capitalism. I just dont understand it. I guess I wish i would of studied economics when i went to college.’

Funny how the campus book store lady knows more economics than the whole economics department.

LMAO it sounds like the economics department is trolling.

haha yep. Economics has been the ONLY department (obviously just talking about my school) to claim their classes are protected by intellectual property rights, and using information taught in class is property of the professors and any use of it for your own personal gain is illegal.

whats the point of college again!?!

Seems like we have a new convert coming up :stuck_out_tongue:

If you hate your parents, the man or the establishment, don’t show them up by getting wasted and wrapping your car around a tree. If you really want to rebel against your parents, out-learn them, outlive them, and know more than they do.

  • Henry Rollins

I’m going to be 23 in January, I left school, and I work a low end job - this seems to be of my choosing my sitting, waiting, and thinking. It usually does not have a large affect on me, but lately I’ve contrasted my life’s “success” or “progress” with others - something I generally don’t do, and everyone my age is now graduating college and looking for careers if they don’t already have them. I really have no interest or idea of what career I’d have, besides sitting, waiting, and thinking. I wonder what’s to come, what change is next.

@Bert we’re in the same boat my friend

“To Understand is to think; To think is to grow; To grow is to live.”

  • Frank Herbert “The Jesus Incident”

Now for some that may seem out of place here:

“More money, more problems.”

-Notorious B.I.G.

“Nobody ever wants to buy peace, war prevails!”

“The secret to succes is believing that you suceeding is more than an achievement, it’s as important as you breathing.”

-ILL Bill

Yet the contents and structures of the unconscious are the result of the immemorial existential situations, especially of critical situations, and this is why the unconscious has a religious aura. For every existential crisis once again puts in question both the reality of the world and man’s presence in the world. This means that the existential crisis is, finally, “religious,” since on the archaic levels of culture being and the sacred are one. As we saw, it is the experience of the sacred that founds the world, and even the most elementary religion is, above all, an ontology. In other words, in so far as the unconscious is the result of countless existential experiences, it cannot but resemble the various religious universes. For religion is the paradigmatic solution for every existential crisis. It is the paradigmatic solution not only because it can be indefinitely repeated, but also because it is believed to have a transcendental origin and hence is valorized as a revelation received from an other, transhuman world. The religious solution not only resolves the crisis but at the same time makes existence “open” to values that are no longer contingent or particular, thus enabling man to transcend person situations and, finally, gain access to the world of spirit.

Mircea Eliade, The Sacred and the Profane: The Nature of Religion

But why, then, do some enjoy spending so much time with me? You have heard, men of Athens; I told you the whole truth. It is because they enjoy hearing men examined who suppose they are wise, but are not. For it is not unpleasant.

  • Socrates, Apologia (33b)

My economics teacher just now: “With the Fed’s announcement of QE3 and the new apple iphone should get the US out of this recession.”

Alright. Let’s sit back and twiddle our thumbs while we watch.

I like how your teacher thinks that 1 product can fix a whole economy.

I think many people do not grasp the weight that the term “Economy” holds.

Oh, and this is relevant to the iPhone stimulus:

http://krugman-in-wonderland.blogspot.com/2012/09/maybe-stimulus-bearing-space-aliens.html

thats exactly what im thinking. what he is saying is throw away your iphone 4s for an iphone 5 (for like .2 extra ghz) and we will finally spend our way out of a recession. more broken windows. (dont get me wrong, Apple has done great things for the economy, but to claim that ppl buying a single PHONE will get us out of our recession is crazy)

Stumbled upon this Benjamin Constant quote today:

I love that first sentence. Of all the burdens that “liberals” want to spare us via the state, obeying and paying are never among them.

1. Extreme positions are not succeeded by moderate ones, but by contrary extreme positions.

  1. When the exceptional man handles the mediocre man with more delicate fingers than he applies to himself or to his equals, this is not merely kindness of heart—it is simply his duty… . Whom do I hate most heartily among the rabbles of today? The rabble of Socialists, the apostles to the Chandala, who undermine the workingman’s instincts, his pleasure, his feeling of contentment with his petty existence—who make him envious and teach him revenge… . Wrong never lies in unequal rights; it lies in the assertion of “equal” rights… . What is bad? But I have already answered: all that proceeds from weakness, from envy, from revenge. The anarchist and the Christian have the same ancestry… .
    ~ The Antichrist

A question of power, not justice. For men who always consider the higher usefulness of a matter, socialism, if it really is the uprising against their oppressors of people oppressed and kept down for thousands of years, poses no problem of justice (with the ludicrous, weak question: “How far should one yield to its demands?”), but only a problem of power ( “To what extent can one use its demands?”). So it is like a natural power-steam, for example-which is either forced by man, as a god of machines, into his service, or, when there are mistakes in the machine (that is, errors of human calculation in its construction), wrecks itself and the human with it. To solve that question of power, one must know how strong socialism is, and in which of its modifications it can still be used as a mighty lever within the current political power game; in some circumstances one would even have to do everything possible to strengthen it. With every great force (even the most dangerous), humanity must think how to make it into a tool of its own intentions.
Socialism gains a right only when the two powers, the representatives of the old and new, seem to have come to war, but then both parties prudently calculate how they may preserve themselves to best advantage, and this results in their desire for a treaty. No justice without a treaty. Until now, however, there has been neither war in the indicated territory, nor treaties, and thus no rights, and no “ought” either.
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Socialism in respect to its means. Socialism is the visionary younger brother of an almost decrepit despotism, whose heir it wants to be. Thus its efforts are reactionary in the deepest sense. For it desires a wealth of executive power, as only despotism had it; indeed, it outdoes everything in the past by striving for the downright destruction of the individual, which it sees as an unjustified luxury of nature, and which it intends to improve into an expedient organ of the community. Socialism crops up in the vicinity of all excessive displays of power because of its relation to it, like the typical old socialist Plato, at the court of the Sicilian tyrant;11 it desires (and in certain circumstances, furthers) the Caesarean power state of this century, because, as we said, it would like to be its heir. But even this inheritance would not suffice for its purposes; it needs the most submissive subjugation of all citizens to the absolute state, the like of which has never existed. And since it cannot even count any longer on the old religious piety towards the state, having rather always to work automatically to eliminate piety (because it works on the elimination of all existing states), it can only hope to exist here and there for short periods of time by means of the most extreme terrorism. Therefore, it secretly prepares for reigns of terror, and drives the word “justice” like a nail into the heads of the semieducated masses, to rob them completely of their reason (after this reason has already suffered a great deal from its semieducation), and to give them a good conscience for the evil game that they are supposed to play.

Socialism can serve as a rather brutal and forceful way to teach the danger of all accumulations of state power, and to that extent instill one with distrust of the state itself. When its rough voice chimes in with the battle cry “As much state as possible,” it will at first make the cry noisier than ever; but soon the opposite cry will be heard with strength the greater: “As little state as possible.”

  • Human, All Too Human.
  1. The over-all degeneration of man down to what today appears to the socialist dolts and flatheads as their “man of the future”-as their ideal-this degeneration and diminution of man into the perfect herd animal, this animalization of man into the dwarf animal of equal rights and claims, is possible, there is no doubt of it. Anyone**who has once thought through this possibility to the end knows one kind of nausea that other men don’t know-but perhaps also a new task! (BGE)

5. Active, successful natures act, not according to the dictum “know thyself,” but as if there hovered before them the commandment: will a self and thou shalt become a self.

  1. My idea is that every specific body strives to become master over all space and to extend its force (its will to power) and to thrust back all that resists its extension. But it continually encounters similar efforts on the part of other bodies and ends by coming to an arrangement (“union”) with those of them that are sufficiently related to it: thus they then conspire together for power. And the process goes on.

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Some Nietzsche when thinking of “market as process”, utilitarianism, and socialism. Been awhile since I looked at HATH or Will To power, hence the quotes.

“The older morality, namely Kant’s, demands from the individual those actions that one desires from all men–a nice, naive idea, as if everyone without further ado would know which manner of action would benefit the whole of mankind, that is, which actions were desirable at all. It is a theory like that of free trade, which assumes that a general harmony would have to result of itself, according to innate laws of melioration.”

~ Human, All Too Human

Dont ever forget that what hitler did in germany was legal.

-Martin Luther King Jr.

“Teachers used to tell school kids that anyone can be president. This is like saying anyone can go to Hell. It’s not an inspiration; it’s a threat.” -Lew Rockwell

Two quotes from Joseph Campbell on discussing Star Wars, pretty relevant.

“Darth Vader has not developed his own humanity. He’s a robot. He’s a bureaucrat, living not in terms of himself but in terms of an imposed system. This is the threat to our lives that we all face today. Is the system going to flatten you out and deny you your humanity, or are you going to be able to make use of the system to the attainment of human purposes? How do you relate to the system so that you are not compulsively serving it? It doesn’t help to try to change it to accord with your system of thought. The momentum of history behind it is too great for anything really significant to evolve from that kind of action. The thing to do is learn to live in your period of history as a human being. That’s something else, and it can be done.”

  • The Power of Myth with Bill Moyers, 1988

“Star Wars deals with the essential problem: Is the machine going to control humanity, or is the machine going to serve humanity? Darth Vader is a man taken over by a machine, he becomes a machine, and the state itself is a machine. There is no humanity in the state. What runs the world is economics and politics, and they have nothing to do with the spiritual life.”

  • Interviewed by Chris Goodrich, Publisher’s Weekly, 1985

“There’s a point, far out there when the structures fail you, and the rules aren’t weapons anymore, they’re… shackles, letting the bad guy get ahead. One day… you may face such a moment of crisis. And in that moment, I hope you have a friend like I did, to plunge their hands into the filth so that you can keep yours clean!”

  • Jim Gordon (The Dark Knight Rises)