That’s what Tucker Carlson said on Fox News filling in for Sean Hannity, apparently. The blood lust of conservatives never ceases to amaze me, but that’s beside the point.
In case you don’t know who Michael Vick is, he is a pro football quarterback who was put in jail for a year in 2008 for being involved in a gruesome dogfighting ring. On a larger note, as anarcho-capitalists, how do you think animal rights could be protected in the case of dogfighting?
Probably some balance between theactual physical authority one can put over a dog vs their usefulness to the community a court would juridict in. If a community really likes dogs, they’ll probably have a fair amount of protection as opposed to a community which does not.
Like anything only the demand, custom, and value of something can tell
Bah I really don’t give a damn that he had dogs fighting. I mean sure the dogs could be doing something else- but some people find it cool. I know I do. I would love to see Grizzly Bear vs. Lion deathmatches or something. But everyones too boring these days.
Animals are definitely amazing and I can get attached to them too- but some people appreciate different things about animals. One might appreciate how cuddly a dog is, another appreciates the raw ferocity that dwells inside. I certainly wouldn’t want to sentence to death any man for something like this. How about sentencing to death people who go hunting for “fun” like Dick cheney. Oh no that’s juussst fine.
But in terms of the question- it would all depend, if the entire community loves dogfights, then that’s the way it goes.
I read today where an NFL executive bragged that it’s a “done deal” to expand the league’s schedule from 16 to 18 games. It’s not a secret why this is happening. NFL owners spent decades malinvesting — usually with funds seized by local governments — in unnecessary stadiums. Now the stadium debt is choking the owners, most of whom were incompetent to begin with. So they’re scapegoating the players.
The NFL knows its product is harmful to its employees. They’ve had to dance around the issue of brain injuries — aka concussions — while simultaneously portraying the players as greedy narcissists who must be treated like prisoners. The media has played along, largely because their own jobs are tied to the league’s continued popularity.
The feds put Mike Vick in jail for dog-fighting. The NFL organizes human dog-fights and gets billions in subsidies. When don’t libertarians stand up and say, “Enough!”?
I’ve been talking this one over with my old roomate for about a year now, and as much as some people really hate to admit it - Animals are property.
However, a random, non organized (ie contracted) fight would be an abuse of my property, and therefore that jackoff would be liable. Luckily most people disaprove of this shit from the get-go.
As for the ‘rights of animals’ (someone got a better name for this yet?), I think william said it well.
Current television b-s, or television in general? I think it’s good to have as many media outlets as possible. Then again, society is being ruined with the trash on television these days.
I like the notion of balance, even though, like you said, it will probably vary by community depending on how animals are valued. I personally think it takes a sick and depraved mind to commit animals to cruelty willingly. For animals in general, I think it would be more productive to treat them well and use voluntary associations to encourage such treatment on a scalable level. Focusing on whether or not animals have “rights” just enables abusers to justify their actions. You’ll truly eliminate animal cruelty by convincing people to voluntarily treat animals well, not through any coercive means, and this requires vibrant civic activism, not some coercive law or regulation.
Let the dogs demonstrate they have rights by forming their own courts and trying Michael Vick.
Don’t get me wrong, I find the practice sickening. But for the libertarian, there is a lot of territory between “I disapprove” and “Let’s throw him in jail”.
On another note, I was on the fence about how I felt about Tucker Carlson. This pretty much decides the issue (unless and until I hear him passionately defending Julian Assange).