Since the primal thread has been reincarnated from the depths of the glorious LVMI server database, i always been having a question in my mind…
Milk.
THe free market has provided us many different types of milks, raw, pasteurized, whole, chocolate, vanilla, 1% fat, 2%fat, low fat, reduced fat, etc, etc.
I tend to generally drink whole milk (from whole foods of course), as I am young and pretty lactose tolerant, ive decided that this is the type of milk to drink in the morning, and occasionally as a snack.
Shoud i resort to drinking low fat milks or is the fat from whole food milk healthy for me? (after all, our brains are made of fat)
And does milk really make one taller? Is milk good for muscle growth?
The question I’ve had was if I should drink raw milk. I’ve heard everything about how it’s incredibly dangerous, and everything about how it’s very healthy. But just because the government is against it is enough for me to lean on the “it’s very healthy” side.
The only people that should be drinking raw milk are the ones that can actually milk it off the cows themselves. It doesn’t keep well. If you’re gonna ship it, you’ve got to pasteurize it from there.
I’m sure it’s very good. It’s also much whiter than 2%, which you can see if you ever pour some cream, which is largely what’s been removed from most drinking milks
My parents and I have been drinking raw milk for maybe a year and a half and we’ve found it to be pretty good - my parents have read that it has a lot of positive effects and that it’s even good for lactose intolerant people (supposedly).
Then again, the guys we buy from do excessive tests to make sure it’s always of amazing quality (and if there is any trace of extra bacteria they stop distribution immediately and notify all customers, even if it’s innocent bacteria).
Make sure that your milk supplier performs thorough tests, because the milk is not pasteurized.
Everybody from the 1800’s and before that drank raw milk are all dead.
Real food doesn’t keep well, processed food keeps a lot longer. Pasteurized milk rots, raw milk sours. You don’t want to drink putrid pastuerized milk, sour raw milk tastes off but you (well, maybe just me) can still drink it.
The food pyramid was based on a famous study which tried to show a correlation of fat intake with heart disease. Gary Taubes is the authority on this whole issue and makes a convincing case of why it is wrong.
It flies completely in the face of evolutionary science. Fat and protein were our ancestors primary source of energy. Grains and especially refined sugar are modern inventions and cause modern diseases like diabetes and obesity.
It flies completely in the face of evolutionary science…
Walden, I’m not trying to argue with you specifically, and I agree that refined sugar is unhealthy. But I wonder at times about arguing from evolutionary science.
Are we supposed to all die at 40 like our ancestors, living life daily infested with fleas? Are diabetics to drop dead, because it goes against evolutionary science to take insulin, because our ancestors didn’t have it? Are we not to wear winter coats because evolutionary science tells us our ancestors did not have thick fur like dogs? How does this differ from the old “If God wanted us to have electricity , He would have implanted light bulbs in our foreheads”? Arguments like those have been given a new life, with God replaced by evolutionary science.
Evolution doesn’t always wind up with optimum results. Some species would be better off if evolution had tweaked them a bit more before presenting them to us. I mean, have you ever smelled adog when he comes in out of the rain?
The point I’m making is that we have brains, and their job is to overcome the handicaps we are otherwise limited by, thanks to evolutionary science..
I would prefer raw milk, but can’t afford the cowshare and the driving that I’d have to do. Since I can’t get raw, I choose to limit milk in my diet mostly to fermented products, which I feel at least transform into something a little more alive.
That said though, I’m not really a big fan of super restrictive or super abundant eating habits on anything. I think people get pretty loony over food. The main thing is to notice how variable human diets are worldwide in the regional diets that have supported healthy populations through history. In one part of the world they live on dried meat and fat, in another part they eat nothing but cheese and yogurt, in others it’s all about the local greens. I don’t think there’s a big secret to be found here. If it’s been eaten or drunk for thousands of years, it’s probably not terrible for you so don’t go crazy, that’s my philosophy.
On the other hand I wouldn’t expect any particular food item to be the fountain of youth. I think the people who experience fantastic health benefits from switching to raw milk, for example, are largely people for whom the power of suggestion really helps manage their symptoms. Which is fine.
I’ve provided rationale in the statement itself. Raw milk will earily spoil and cannot be easily shipped long distances without pasteurization therefore. If you disagree that’s the part where you should provide your own rationale.
Well, what is your definition of “long distances?” I and thousands of others are living proof that it doesn’t need to be heated at high temperatures if it is going to be shipped away from the farm for consumption.
When I go to the store to purchase my raw milk, it has already been sitting in the refridgerator for probably a day or two. After that, it stays good in my own refridgerator for almost 2 weeks before turning into something you’d rather make cheese out of.
