If libertarians are non aggressionists, why do minarchists call themselves libertarians? Their minimum state must be theft based!
They aren’t libertarians. They loosely take libertarian to mean the maintenance of personal liberty via courts, police and army through a monopoly.
You have spotted the fallacy to it. In order to have liberty, you can’t be beholden to a monopoly rights provider and under a social contract you did not agree to.
That, or it must be funded by donations - and the question remains - what happens to people who don’t recognize their claim to ‘jurisdiction’.
For some reason, it is just really difficult for us humans to admit reality. For some, it is more difficult than for others.
Some people cannot accept the arguments for private courts, I wouldnt use that as a reason to push them out of the tent. I dont know if I can blame them, since no one seems to agree here on much of anything related to private courts. I’ve seen some wild theories thrown around - such as restitution for all crimes (including murder and rape).
How is that wild?
Justice is in the eye of the victim, not in disinterested 3rd parties with weak stomachs.
Because its a much bigger concept than the concept of private courts. To believe in public courts over private means that one believes, on some level, that it is acceptable to take money from others, with or without their consent.
It doesn’t mean we can’t co-operate with them, so long as our principles are not compromised, I don’t think anyone would suggest that.
Justice is preserving social cooperation.
false.
True, the only yardstick of justice is the health of social cooperation.
Is social cooperation possible without justice?
No I meant financial compensation for all crimes - a theory I’ve seen floating here a few times.
false
Well, I actually favour that. It’s up to the victim though.
Of course. It’s called slavery.
The sentence does not make sense for justice is the cultivation of social interactions.
Utterly moronic nonsense. Coercive social interactions are not just.
So I am engaging in justice by talking to you? This is a social interaction isn’t it?
OK, this has taken some time, but I think I can finally declare myself a libertarian (i. e. ancap). Even if I still get questions from critics that I have a hard time answering.