Mohammad the Libertarian?

[liberty_student]

And your proof that it was his intent is?

[auctionguy10]

@Jon Irenicus

And your proof that this was not Mohammed’s intent, would be?

-Jon

Well I’ve already mentioned that aggresive invasions and using force to get people to believe in Islam is considered completely unlawful by the Quran(doesn’t stop people from trying it though). What other proofs of intent could I possibly provide? But I get the feeling you’ve already decided for yourself what Islam’s purpose is- and you dare not associate anyone who founded a religion with having any positive messages.

[Jon_Irenicus]

No, I’m asking what Mohammed’s purpose in spreading it was. It might be that a lot of what is actually in the Qu’ran has next to nothing to do with why it was founded or how it is practised.

-Jon

[auctionguy10]

The purpose would be to cast off the restraints on freedom that the Meccans had placed- such as recognizing property rights for everyone- as well as taking on barbaric practicies such as the killing of newborn females(males were considered much more valuable in Pre-Islamic Arabia).

[Mlee]

IMO this probablly shows how religons as memes survive. If they promote particular behaviors (Such as respect for private property) they benefit the societies they have “infected” so the society perpetuates the meme. This could actually apply to the earlier forms of most major religons, perhaps one could explain them as a means to keep societies structure intact, since many people aren’t going to care about the “Non-Aggresion Axiom” anyway. Religon in this context when it supports beneficial behaviors is a way to keep people from violating social commands. Of course the reasons for the existance of religion are many and far more complex, but this could explain why certian religons survive. Rather than simply because they threaten with hell, but because they support beneficial behavior.

[Anton_Sugar]

@liberty student

YouTube: Mohammad the Libertarian?

Really interesting interview conducted by Scott Horton from AntiWar.com. If you don’t know much about Islam (I learned a lot listening to this), it’s a great 4 part interview. Also makes the case for the foundation of rational economics tracing back to the Islamic rule of the Iberian peninsula

Knowing a great deal about Islam, I can certainly see the hope for progress in this region.

[GauharJK]

Awesome.. [:D]

Thanks a lot mate… [:)]

[GauharJK]

@auctionguy10

Well that wasn’t the purpose of founding the religion- and engaging in that type of act goes completely against the Quran. Of course there will be people who call themselves Muslims that ignore that idea and engage in acts of aggression**(just like there are people in this country who say they support Freedom and Liberty but then support the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan)** - but one of the clearest lines in the Quran is that there is absolutely no compulsion in religion. The idea of “Sharia Law” itself turns out to be very Un-Islamic if anyone actually uses the Quran as the basis of Islamic law(since Sharia is based more on supposed quotes of Muhammad called “Hadith”- which were recorded over 200 years after his death. Not all Muslims adhere to that). NO muslim country today truly uses the Quran as the basis of its law- all their governments have too much power and enact laws based on the personal beliefs of those in power.

Islam itself is very pro-private property and free-markets and if we were able to remind most of the Muslim world about this fact then they would see much more prosperity than they do now. As it is now, nearly all Muslim nations have nothing but government interference in the market and disrespect towards private property. illiteracy is also very high so the average Muslim has to go to an Imam who usually doesn’t know what he’s talking about**(since they nearly always support their state more than they do Islam)** for instruction on what the Quran says.

I think the importance of videos like this are more for educating Muslims than anyone else. It is no wonder that the Muslim world is ridden with poverty- and the “Golden age” of prosperity in the Muslim world is long gone. Free-market principles have been eradicated infavor of statism and socialism. Capitalism is now seen as a brand new “Western” invention based on greed- rather than something that all Muslims should be in support of.

Very interesting indeed. And true. I agree with you…

[Niccolo]

@Jon Irenicus

No, I’m asking what Mohammed’s purpose in spreading it was. It might be that a lot of what is actually in the Qu’ran has next to nothing to do with why it was founded or how it is practised.

-Jon

Muhammad viewed his religion as “going back to” the true religion of God. Muhammad saw contemporary Judaism and Christianity as a corruption of God’s religion.

This is why he called Abraham a Muslim.