Then you’re just baiting, because you’re not saying what you actually do believe, just making a lot of hand-wavy speculations about my knowledge and then claiming I am ‘ignorant’ because you refuse to be substantive.
Anyways, screw this thread and the religious trolls on this forum.
Take it easy Mr. intellectual.
I’m not speculating, I’m taking in what you provide as an argument. I have a religious preference, so I don’t know what you mean about not being substantive. I figure if you’re attacking religion, you’re attacking all religions, so my preference/belief would be irrelevant, as it just falls under the religion blanket. If you have a problem with people who believe something that you don’t that has no affect on you in this world, then just don’t talk about it. I don’t see why you are so negative towards it.
This is what I think of this thread:
Interpret that however you please.
It takes real ignorance to be as arrogant as you are in the vast majority of your posts on this entire forum.
There is no disconnect between my anarcho-capitalist libertarianism and my Christianity. I’m in no way bothered that you don’t care about my “sorcery.” I don’t shove my “magic” in your face by posting arrogant and imbecilic topics about my distaste for your beliefs. Please extend me the same courtesy or at least provide some semblance of intelligent argument.
Even in discussion of topics on which we are agreed, I loathe the very sight of your avatar. It’s not what you believe – it’s your arrogant and bullheadedly ignorant presentation. Please, for your own sake, take a moment to consider the possibility that you’re not nearly as smart as you think you are.
I don’t have any problem with you personally for believing in libertarianism, and I don’t want to argue with your particular theology. I am talking about religions as cultural and historical products which, as a believing Christian, you obviously disagree with. Fine, our premises are different. This is not addressed at you.
I strongly, strongly!, disagreed to the arguments represented here in this picture. However after deep contemplation, and a few nights of sleep, I feel that the cupcake monster man is starting to make far more sense. At least far more then this thread!
I feel that your compelling argumentation is growing on me.
A pity that those such as Ricky plague the cause of Libertarianism. But oh well, fundamentalist atheism can be a tough thing to cure. 
I’ve always struggled to see how anyone could have any spiritual pretentions worth considering and be free market oriented
Not too sure I disagree with this statement now, but just in case anyone wants to hold me to it, I am reneging this point.
I fail to see how the two positions relate at all.
Yawn. Unnecessary post, really.
This is kind of like saying, “I fail to see how a person that loves meat and loves vegetables too”
Not too sure I disagree with this statement now, but just in case anyone wants to hold me to it, I am reneging this point.
I was thinking mostly due to the inevitability of egoism and scientific narratives that oppose any form of spirtuality worth considering. While that may be true, I am not as sure anymore.
Perhaps you can further spell out your understanding of egoism, and where it lies in conflict with religion. Bare with me because egoism as a concept is new to me and I don’t fully comprehend it. Wikipedia in this regard is lacking.
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I was thinking mostly due to the inevitability of egoism and scientific narratives that oppose any form of spirtuality worth considering. While that may be true, I am not as sure anymore.
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Hmm that is interesting. Can’t say I’v ever seen this thought hashed out before. I second filc’s request.
Also, coming into this thread late I’m interpretting it as a big misunderstanding of the original post. I have a neighbor who I speak to on occasion and he self-labels as a non-religious Christian. I have become more aware of this mindset and it is entirely libertarian compatiable. The statement ‘No Religion is Libertarian’ is accurate. The faithful which support the culture of religion are no different than that of statists. To believe in a God it is not required of you to believe in a religious cultural system.
My desire for and devotion to truth is what makes me an atheist and a libertarian.
I would say that the statement ‘no religion is libertarian’ is inaccurate because what ones belief in faith has nothing to do with political/economic thought. an atheist libertarian cant be more libertarian than an atheistic liberatarian based on their beliefs regarding faith. And it is very Libertarian to separate religious thought to economic/political thought, which is why most Libertarians would agree on the whole separation of the church and state.
I’m not well read on religion or athiesm. I’m essentially a layman on most things discussed on here but I’ll take a stab…
Religion is a culural system, would you agree? Elimination of the state, maximization of individual liberty and property rights is a culural system, would you agree? Harking back to my reference of my non-religious Christian friend you can see my point is not to butt heads with the faithful but to illustrate their culutural systems as being non-Libertarian.
I feel we might be slightly talking past eachother but maybe this may clear things up a bit.
I would say that the statement ‘no religion is libertarian’ is inaccurate because what ones belief in faith has nothing to do with political/economic thought. an atheist libertarian cant be more libertarian than an atheistic liberatarian based on their beliefs regarding faith. And it is very Libertarian to separate religious thought to economic/political thought, which is why most Libertarians would agree on the whole separation of the church and state.
I agree with you, but it seems to me that one has to partition his mind to hold faith on the one hand and libertarianism on the other. Libertarianism, at least more extreme varieties, is the result of extreme skepticism and rationalism. Faith is the result of neither of those nor does it hold them in high regard. In fact, faith is an abnegation of both, a rejection of man’s capacity to use reason.
Just as one might partition his mind between english and math?