I understand the possibilty of giving alternatives to people from Third World countries from crime related jobs like prostitution, drug ring, etc, stated in this nytimes article, but my problem with this, is that it makes it seem as though free market would eliminate prostitution, and I have heard from liberals that free market advocates favor legal prostitution along with drugs, and so forth. So, I’m not sure I understand, are they really a product of capitalism, and can it never be erased, but only through government? Take Thailand, who is pro free market to the extreme, and look how large their sex industry is, or America for that matter, at least in places like Nevada, and the only reason why there is lack of prostitution is because government is there to regulate it. What are your thoughts? Is there a free market advocate who is against prostitution or drugs that can find solutions to this?
Which NYTimes article?
Do you know what capitalism is?
Thailand is very regulated. How can you claim it is extremely free market?
There is prostitution everywhere. It is the oldest profession. The difference between Nevada and places where the government has made it illegal, is that in Nevada, it is considered a proper career, the girls make a lot of money, and they are not abused. Where the government regulates it, cops rape prostitutes, drugs are involved, and women are frequently abused.
You have no moral authority to decide what other people do with their own bodies, or what consensual people choose to do.
Move to an area where the population isn’t partial to them. Personally neither drug nor prostitute consumption bother me in the least.
I thought I would get hostile replies, well maybe not so, maybe you are clarifying for me what capitalism or the free market is. I thought mises was for legalization of prostitution and drugs. He says and I quote from this site:
Also let me give the links to back up my posts a bit:
The NY times article defending sweat shops I actually got from a pro sweat shop article here on this site Mises Institute from the commentator on that article.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/opinion/15kristof.html?hp
Unfortunately it seems I can’t load the commentators posts, as the site won’t load them, but I believe it was this article.
As for Thailand and it’s claim pro free enterprise system, unfortunately, I forgot which site I saw that said Thailand was an example of free market extremism. By the way, do you do the sex industry is government regulated by the sounds of your post? I’m not saying the free market is wrong, see I’m more of a Christian, and they hold some anti-Communist beliefs, and I thought Capitalists such as yourself and this site would at least have some answers, but while some bible fundamentalist does advocate capitalism, some of them say it’s not the perfect economic system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Thailand
I know what you’re thinking, wikipedia is not a credible source(especially from academic institutions) since people can change information and lead to disinfo, but I’ve checked some claims through this site, and most of the time wiki backs up certain claims I’ve run into throughout my life.
Libertarians are for legalization of all peaceful action. Aren’t you?
It’s not. I do a lot of business in Thailand. The state is very corrupt and the country is rapidly turning into a bureaucratic nightmare.
I have no idea what this means.
I have no idea what this means. The 10 commandments include thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not kill. That is completely compatible with libertarian anarchism. The government kills and steals, it is not compatible with Christianity.
For us, a free market is a market without government intervention or taxes. Thailand does not qualify. Wikipedia is a collectivist cesspool much of the time, what Wikipedia might consider free market, we would consider socialism. Generally, libertarians do not compromise on what a free market is. No such thing exists at this time, so to claim that Thailand is extreme free market is badly misguided.
Not to be rude, but you should proof read your posts. They are hard to understand and come off as incomplete.
No one ever claimed that drugs and prostitution would be eliminated by a market system. The idea is they would be safer in terms of disease, addiction and violence. This is not an “Austrian” position, it’s the mainstream view.
All sexual relationships are essentially prostitution. It’s just a question of how honest you want to be about it.
If you take that extreme viewpoint, you can say “All human relationships are essentially prostitution.” You only hang out with someone if both people benefit from the transaction.
No government should forbid anything that is consensual. It is through prohibitions and regulations that prostitutes become victims of force and criminal activities.
Define prostitution. I see it this way.
Me: $100
Prostitute: 10 min
Exchange over.
Sexual relationships are usually a bit more complicated than this simple transaction. Would you agree?
The free market satisfies the most urgent demands of people. If customers want more sex with prostitutes, yes, the free market will come up with a lot of willing prostitutes.
If you want to find a way to stop or minimize prostitution(which I’m in favor of too), you should try other free market tools to spread your message. The free market perhaps can find you very innovative and impressive techniques too, which can help your cause.
But the basic idea is the same–the market provides what customers ask for. Well, but that doesn’t mean the market can provide enough prostitutes when not many people are willing to perform the job.
My definition: Payment in any form for fornication. If there is a reason that someone would hold out, whatever breaks the hold out is the payment. Married people will know what I mean.
Naw. Only fornication is prostitution. All other relationships are barter.