Photonic Water - Scam or Good?

Has anyone used this…

I would say its a scam, but people are saying they’ve used it and its really good.

My initial reaction is scam…but I tend to be somewhat skeptical of things like this…

Eh… wiggles open hand slightly around the roll axis

Sounds a lot like the Oriental Yin-Yang/Chi deal, and there is some truth- but some of that is also explained by modern Western medicine and impacts on nerves, so there may be something there, but would I both.. no, but there are people who do, and claim benefits, so honestly I’d like an outside, double-blind, placebo controlled, random-block sample study done taking into account age, previous mental health, philosophy, and gender.

But thats the soon to be, as my intro to ME professor said, brainwashed, burgerning engineer in me..

Having spent a good chunck of my youth studying chemistry all I can say is… it defies belief! It defies belief there are people spending their hard earned money on snake oil!

Bwahaha. “Scam” is too nice a word.

Ok, let me put my inner physicist to the test (disclaimer: im not a physicist, chemist or biologist, although i do have an avid interest in physics, so please correct me if I’m wrong)

From the second video “water health and the structure factor” (havent seen the first):

“The majority of the water we consume has very little life in it” : not true, you look into a glass of water and you’ll see billions of tiny microbes, almost all 100% harmless (unless you distill and sterilize the water).

“Water is a living substance…not that inert substance that we’re accustomed to seeing it as” - wrong. it’s a molecule composed of two elements Hydrogen and Oxygen. That we know of, it is 100% required for life to exist (still a theory), but in itself it’s as living as gold or plastic. Oh, and light (or molecules) dont reproduce - necessary by definition of life.

“When water rebels…we don’t know that because we dont think it has that capability” - ok did i hear this right!? water, unlike james dean, does not rebel. with or without a cause.

“structured water is water that’s living; it has biophotons (living light), and guess what? that’s what we are” - uhm, no. elemtents and molecules are NOT living, much less light. Light is energy, period. no such thing as live energy or dead energy.

ah whatever, let’s go to clayton.

“I structure the water and balance it” - no such thing as “structured (or balanced) water”. the closest thing you can come to structure is solid ice, but you dont need anything special or magical to do it, much less “living light”. just get a freezer.

well, you get the idea. Oh, and i love how at the end the narrator suggests that water natagonizes life.

Either it’s a scam or these guys are incredibly stupid. (and for those naive enough to fall for this, if you want “photonic life” in your water, then put it in the microwave)

MPP

Ok, let me put my inner physicist to the test

Yeah, complete frogot the physics angle, but then again yesterday was a long day for me…

and I was just going of a few pages, and didn’t spend time on the videos or longer pieces..

But the sad part is people buy it, just as people buy that Obama fired the cattle guards and wanted them retrained to be US Border Guards…

“wrong. It’s a molecule composed of two elements Hydrogen and Oxygen.”

So, when someone says, all atomic particles are made up of subatomic particles and now it is believed that those sub atomic particles are just made up of smaller particles that constantly move and vibrate at a certain frequency…

you do not believe that?

Are you referring to string theory? Sure I do. I’m not sure I see your point, though. the point i was trying to make (assuming I understood correctly the point the narrator was trying to convey) was that water is not, at least in the literal sense, a living substance. it’s made of atoms. It is true, atoms are made of protons, neutrons and electrons, which, in turn, are defined by quarks (and they, in turn, but the so-called strings), however neither one of those are considered “living” (at least not using common terminology).

On a somewhat unrelated point: there is much heated debate amonst the physicists on whether or not TP (theoretical physics), such as string theory, should be even considered “real” physics given that it (at least at the moment) cannot be tested; at least not reliably. Pity economists don’t have such a healthy dose of skepticism :-/

This reminds me of Grander Products and similar wonky weirdness and quakery. Though there may be a pacebo effect.

If you are looking to clean the contaminents that the local water company puts in your drinking water I am partial to the black Berkey filters with the added fluoride filters.

The placebo effect is as bogus as photonic water.

Placebo effect is not bogus. Otherwise it wouldn’t exist at all.

Yes. It doesn’t exist at all.