Request - examples of giants the free market brought down

I distinctly remember reading about some well-known large companies that the free market brought down by itself. However, I do not remember the names. I had a vague memory that it was Sears, but I can’t find any references.

Help?

Standard Oil lost significant proportions of the oil market before it was broken up by the government if that helps.

If you cannot remember parts of something how distinct is it?

I cannot even think of a scenario wherethere has ever existed this “free market.” Corporations used to be strictly regulated by states, then nation states, and now slowly they are building infrastructure for international organizations to govern them. But, in the past many banks have been taken down by market forces. For instance, Lehman Brothers.

Kodak, due to the popularity of digital cameras. Ironically, digital photography was invented by Kodak to begin with.

Neodoxy - I had already thought of that, but I wanted something more obvious.

Aristophanes - true enough. Yet it appears that in some cases it might be impossible to identify a government cause for the downfall of a company. This doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist, that is, but still. Do you think this is a worthless pursuit?

Autolykos - thanks.

Blockbuster and Myspace have lost significant market share due to competition.

No company names, but hopefully this is helpful

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html


Table 1 Technological Unemployment


New Product

Labor Needed

Old Product

Labor Released


Automobile

Assemblers

Horse/carriage

Blacksmiths

Designers

Train

Wainwrights

Road builders

Boat

Drovers

Petrochemists

Teamsters

Mechanics

RR workers

Truck drivers

Canalmen

Airplane

Pilots

Train

RR workers

Mechanics

Ocean liner

Sawyers

Flight attendants

Mechanics

Travel agents

Ship hands

Boilermakers

Plastics

Petrochemists

Steel

Miners

Aluminum

Founders

Barrels/tubs

Metalworkers

Pottery/glass

Coopers

Potters

Colliers

Computer

Programmers

Adding machine

Assemblers

Computer engineers

Slide rule

Millwrights

Electrical engineers

Filing cabinet

Clerks

Software designers

Paper

Tinsmiths

Lumberjacks

Fax machine

Programmers

Express mail

Mail sorters

Email

Electricians

Teletype

Truck drivers

Software designers

Typists

Telephone

Electronic engineers

Mail

Postal workers

Operators

Telegraph

Telegraph operators

Optical engineers

Overnight coach

Coach drivers

Cellular technicians

Polio vaccine

Chemists

Iron lung

Manufacturers

Lab technicians

Attendants

Pharmacists

Internet

Programmers

Shopping malls

Retail salespersons

Network operators

Libraries

Librarians

Optical goods workers

Reference books

Encyclopedia

Webmasters

salespersons



Resources no longer needed to feed the nation have been freed to meet other consumer demands. Over the decades, workers no longer required in agriculture moved to the cities, where they became available to produce other goods and services. They started out in foundries, meatpacking plants, and loading docks in the early days of the Industrial Age. Their grandsons and granddaughters, living in an economy refashioned by creative destruction into the Information Age, are less likely to work in those jobs. They are making computers, movies, and financial decisions and providing a modern economy’s myriad other goods and services (Table 2).


Table 2 The Churn: Recycling America’s Labor

[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)109,0001900Telegraph operators[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)75,0001920Boilermakers[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)74,0001920Milliners[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)100,0001910Cobblers[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)102,0001900Blacksmiths[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)238,0001910Watchmakers[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)101,0001920Switchboard (telephone) operators119,000421,0001970Farm workers716,00011,533,0001910Secretaries2,302,0003,871,0001980Metal & plastic working machine operators286,000715,0001980Optometrists33,00043,0001998Job CreationNow (2002)ThenYearAirplane pilots and mechanics255,00001900Auto mechanics867,00001900Engineers2,028,00038,0001900Medical technicians1,879,00001910Truck, bus, and taxi drivers4,171,00001900Electricians882,000[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)1900Professional athletes95,000[*](http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/CreativeDestruction.html#fn_lfHendersonCEE2-036_footnote_nt075)1920Computer programmers/operators/scientists2,648,000160,6131970Actors and directors155,00034,6431970Editors and reporters280,000150,7151970Medical scientists89,0003,5891970Dietitians74,00042,3491970Special education teachers374,0001,5631970Physicians825,000295,8031970Pharmacists231,000114,5901970Authors139,00026,6771970TV, stereo, and appliance salespersons309,000111,8421970Webmasters500,00001990

*. Fewer than 5,000.


Job Destruction

Now (2002)

Then

Year


Railroad employees

111,000

2,076,000

1920

Carriage and harness makers

Best Buy is crumbling before our eyes. Circuit City already went down.

The first one that I thought of was Standard Oil, their 90% share had dwindled down to 60% and was dropping when broken up not by Anti-Trust saints but by the first Rosevelt Adminstration that was indebted to the enemy of the Rockefellers: The Rothchilds, but that is just a conspiracy theory.

Also add to the list: GM, Chrysler, Xerox, US Steel, etc.

Ooh, Xerox and US Steel are big ones.

Anyone know something about Sears?

Well, it appears that I was right about Sears:

http://www.csub.edu/kej/documents/economic_rsch/2012-03-19.pdf

The whole British automotive industry. Among cars you have Austin, Morris, Triumph, MG, Talbot, Hillman, Rover and Wolseley. Among motorcycles you have Triumph (the present brand has no affilitiation, they just bought rights to the name), Norton, AJS, BSA, Velocette, Francis Barnett and Chater-Lea. Among engine and component manufacturers you have Pressed Steel (bodywork), J.A. Prestwick (four stroke engines), Rickman (suspensions), Villiers (at one time the largest two stroke engine manufacturer in the world), Lucas (electrics) and Smiths (instrumentations and other automotive components).

Other automotive brands which may be of interest to you are:

Tohatsu. Their motorcycle division couldn’t keep up with offering from the Big Four and was shut down in the early '80s.

Bridgestone. They built some superb two stroke motorcycles in the '60s but operations became uneconomical and they shut the division down, concentrating on tyres and chemical products.

Marusho. They built a long line of excellent motorcycles (the Moto Guzzi V7 was almost a straight copy of the Lilac) but made a fatal mistake by trying to get into the scooter business as the market in Japan was in full decline, investing huge capitals. What was left of the company was bought by Honda, which also hired most of their engineers and designers.

Thanks.

I think my list will be Sears, US Steel, Xerox, Eastman Kodak, and IBM. It’s the most recognizable to US audiences.

Pan Am, Hostess

EDIT: RIM/Blackberry, Sony, Nokia

A brand US audiences may be familiar with is TWA.

They ignored the Asian market (big money lost), air cargo (bigger money lost) and deregulation on the domestic US market hit them hard as they had ignored that market which, after the Airline Deregulation Act of 1978, had grown at an exponential pace.

Also Atari and later Sega as video game console makers. Also Wheylous, you should know better than to make ‘question’ threads, which do not show the proper page number on the forum view once they go up a single page.

I didn’t know that…

I thought you would enjoy this information Wheylous:

In the steel industry, for example, minimills have been cleaning the clocks of the old
steel giants. According to Adams and Brock, minimills operating at infinitesimal
fractions of the output of U.S. Steel and Bethlehem Steel had by 1998 achieved a 45%
share of the U.S. market. They used electric furnaces to process scrap metal, and oriented
their output toward local markets. Minimills produced wire rod and cold-rolled steel
sheets 28% and 29% cheaper, respectively, than U.S. Steel. A minimill could produce
steel bars with only thirty employees on average, compared to 130 even in a single plant
of U.S. Steel.21

21 - Walter Adams and James Brock “The Bigness Complex”

Of Carson’s Organization Theory

That looks really awesome!