Sidelines thread to Lilburne and Rettoper's debate, since we can't post in the actual debate thread

That is false. Molinari, Tucker, Spooner all developed anarchism before the 20th century. All were pro-market, anti-socialist by Mises’ definition.

Mises wasn’t talking about their theory however. If you take one sentence out of context like your fellow anti-libertarian did, you could try to lead people to believe your nonsense though. Checkmate!

Yeah, and why would he do that? What have I got left to live for?

Anything is possible when you have too much free time and too few hobbies.

White port and gorgonzola?

I, for one, am enjoying the debate and am thankful to Grayson for implementing this format. Also, I think that “trolling” accusations are arbitrarily being thrown in so many directions that they may qualify as “trolling” themselves. Just IMO.

As much as I try to be a bon vivant, I find myself much more attracted to creation than consumption.

ancaps will be able to hold their own easily.

they will either corner the global energy market or they will just unleash the probe teams and subvert nations’ economies, populaces, and armies.

this debate was solved years ago.

Argumentum ad antiquitatem

Projection?

boooo

^^^^ Exactly. I can’t believe Argentina lost to Germany.

History “disproving anarchism” = a stateless society (Ireland) finally being taken over after several hundred years worth of sieges by the most powerful military force in the history of the world

^by this I mean the fact that stateless societies have all ended doesn’t prove much.

heck, they survived longer than anyone else attacked by England; I’d chalk that up as one for the, ugh, “anarchists”

It’s fair to call Mises anarchistic, but he was not an anarchist anymore than Jefferson was.

Question: How many times did Grayson have to amend the original debate question before Rettoper actually started participating in the debate?

I totally disagree to this. I would argue that our community is one of the most docile ones out there. We just have very different views on sensitive matters which likely emotionally concerns people more then what they are used to.

In fact I would argue that many here would not proponents of Market Anarchy were it not for an individual who was docile and humble to begin with, but was stubborn in their previous beliefs. Its doubtful that many of us here had the luxury of being taught economics and markets in their up-bringing. Many of us had to go through the painful process of self-discovery.

Show off austrian economics to the mainstream? For what, be laughed at?

We may show off within ourselves but the battle for truth with socialists is very suffocating still.