Vichy?
Are you a member of the masses? If not, how do you explain how much you like bad ideas?
To build secret island ship cities of libertarians.
Which would be instantly crushed by the U.S. Navy as soon as they were relevant.
Of course, it’s so expensive and lame it won’t happen anyways.
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/09/seasteading-without-that-warm-glow.html Here’s a good blog post on it.
I can’t tell if this is humor, an admission of ignorance, or both.
Were you trying to be funny with the first line, and then fake indifference and fatalism with the last two?
I didn’t ask you if you read a blog post about it. I asked you if you could articulate the goals and methodology of SSI, whom you were at least indirectly (now apparently directly) criticizing.
Can you articulate their stated goals and methodology? I would assume so, since you wouldn’t do something so intellectually lazy and dishonest as offer a shallow critique based on ignorance, right?
Seasteading is creating permanent dwellings on the ocean - homesteading the high seas. A seastead, like in the picture to the right, is a structure meant for permanent occupation on the ocean.
That is exactly what I said, only Patri takes himself seriously, and I can not.
don’t answer; its a trap !
good to see you old chap.
“That is exactly what I said, only Patri takes himself seriously, and I can not.”
I actually saw Patri at an event in San Francisco recently and had an impromptu debate with him. I personally think it is possible to spread good ideas very broadly, and he’s skeptical of that (which is why he resorts to the seasteading approach).
Without a doubt, your posts to me today render it impossible to take you seriously, at least thus far. However, you still have not answered the question. Can you articulate the goals and methodology of the SSI?
Have you read more than the opening paragraph or two of the mission statement or are we to rely as your source, primarily on a blog post by someone who was disinvited to speak at an event, and only had the cough courage and character to speak his mind after his invitation was withdrawn, and then by posting half of a conversation, at least half of which (the first half which I speed/skim read) was composed almost entirely of baseless assertion, strawmen and self-indulgent intellectual masturbation?
Answering PMs, made the mistake of checking in on the latest arrogance and fatalism. Nice to see you too though. And Nitro, Lilburne and others.
lol. blahblahblah.
Seasteading is a good idea. For a science fiction story.
“I actually saw Patri at an event in San Francisco recently and had an impromptu debate with him. I personally think it is possible to spread good ideas very broadly, and he’s skeptical of that (which is why he resorts to the seasteading approach).”
Perhaps with your educating, Patri’s seafaring, and my massive breeding we can etch out a positive future.
Patri is more focused on proving good ideas as a means spreading them. I don’t know that seasteading will work (anyone who claims to know is speculating at best) however I applaud the vision and acumen of not just Patri, but the impressive supporters, founders and investors behind the project. They are not idealistic dreamers, but experts in law, engineering, business, technology, marketing and entrepreneurship, and they acknowledge, that even if they fail, we have a lot to learn from the effort.
Of course, there will always be naysayers. Naysaying is easy. Accomplishing more than complaining and critique is hard. And in my experience naysayers are rarely “roll up your sleeves” sort of people.
I actually saw Patri at an event in San Francisco recently and had an impromptu debate with him. I personally think it is possible to spread good ideas very broadly, and he’s skeptical of that (which is why he resorts to the seasteading approach).
I am quite sceptical of both. In fact, I believe that in the near term they will totally fail, especially as so many of them are directed in asinine ways. Educated the majority is pointless, all it produces is confused and contradictory populist ideologies which rise up and fizzle out due to their lack of internal coherence.
Never expect salvation from the masses, especially not from their intellectual abilities. The average human being is nothing to be proud of your relation to. “I don’t know what a scoundrel is like, but I know what a respectable man is like, and it’s enough to make one’s flesh creep.”
“Perhaps with your educating, Patri’s seafaring, and my massive breeding we can etch out a positive future.”
That is REALLY funny. Thank you for the laugh.
I can’t figure out whether you have just insulted my friends and my family. (and that of everyone else who posts here… or anywhere)
Accomplishing more than complaining and critique is hard.
Please, checking my junk mail is more important and relevant than the miniscule effect I would have upon de-totalitarianizing politics, if that were even possible. Activism is a waste of energy, look after yourself and screw anyone who can’t.
I’ve never been shy about the fact that I have a very low opinion of your typical homo sapiens, and I think anyone who isn’t is basically ascribing to the majority accomplishments they fought tooth and nail against (and still do). Human beings have no more intrinsic value than any other kind of organism, and frankly the majority of them constitute such a mentally inert bunch of doo-littles that their meager productivity is likely outweighed by the immense drag they have on political and economic organization.
Vichy, can we please change the subject? I really enjoy reading your takes on philosophy and economics, so I really don’t want to have to moderate you.