Have any of you guys seen this guy? I randomly came across this article on Google News shortly after it went up:
http://open.salon.com/blog/paul_j_orourke/2011/05/17/ron_paul_says_founders_ignorant_of_constitution
I guess some people got Tom Woods to respond to it the following day:
http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/some-guy-ron-paul-doesnt-know-the-constitution/
And He responded earlier today:
http://open.salon.com/blog/paul_j_orourke/2011/05/20/some_guy_zips_up_ron_pauls_pants
I didn’t really care so much about the whole constitution debate, but checking out some of his responses to the comments…
"Yes, Miguel,
By limiting government—which, to people who believe in our system is the same as saying limit the people’s power – it will magically delete the power of wealth to manipulate liberty. By deregulating markets, as we did in the latter 90s and after, the markets will adequately police themselves. Want to tell everybody how that worked out? I mean, if you can afford to.
Of course, the superhero, Captain Competition will burst through the power of wealth and save as all from oligarchy.
What a crock!
Libertarianism is, among other things, globalist in nature, and has no inherent American interest. By allowing everyone and all entities the “same” liberty, you revert to a state of nature, might-makes-right scenario. The assumption that wealth rule can be controlled by ignoring its influence throughout the entire scope of history is nothing short of delusional and Utopian.
I realize I’m probably wasting time here, as you most likely are, as most libertarians, unaware of what the ideology-parading-as-philosophy implies. Generally speaking, most libertarians are simple-minded, gubbermint-hating, slogan-chanting, obtuse wannabes. Something tells me your knowledge is inadequate to addressing the aspects of liberty in a knowledgeable manner.
Before I continue bashing the fraud of libertarianism, show me you actually know something about it, and aren’t just spitting your peas onto the highchair tray.
Perhaps you’re way out of your league? Dare us not think so!
By the way, that’s not ad hominem, that’s snark."
"Libertarianism resembles Marxism because both hold extreme leftist interpretations about the size and scope of government. Libertarians want to legislate away the Constitution…and don’t say otherwise, as the what the Constitution implies and prescribes far exceeds what libertarianism allows…Marxists would do the same, as Engels would have it-- the state “withers away.”
The irony is that power cannot be diminished by taking it out of the people’s hands. It will find its way to somebody’s hands, and they will be the ones who rule. Libertarianism is an open invitation to wealth rule, which is why the Koch bros throw so much money at the cluckheads at Cato.
The big money could give a crap about the left side of libertarianism–who cares if you can sit on your porch smoking dope and watching porn when the big money owns your ass?
Furthering the valid comparison with the communist economic system, libertarianism allows for the impoverishment of the many for the benefit of the few. I guess that, effectively, the only difference is what you choose to call it, and the fact the commies might have frowned upon smoking dope and watching porn.
You can pull quotes out all day long, and they may well be “facts.” the problem is those facts cannot defeat the fact about the original intent of said article at issue. They are just irrelevant facts, and if you had the grey matter chops to grasp why that is true, you wouldn’t be wasting my time or yours.
I link to Story’s Commentaries above. Quit the kvetching, click the link, read the history and submit to a higher authority. You were wrong, you continue to be wrong, and as I see a trend developing, you will probably be wrong in the future.
Suck it in and educate yourself…you can’t argue worth a crap anyway."
"I can agree with most, probably, of what he says, just as I agree with many issues libertarians tend to advocate. I simply don’t agree with libertarianism in general, on a fundamental level, and despise right-libertarianism, as it’s the oligarch’s ideology of choice…for a very good reason.
In my view, 310 individual liberties don’t add up to liberty for all. The “equal” liberty means the grapes are free to roll around with the watermelons, and it’s simply not a fair fight. One cannot ignore the power of wealth to buy rule, and no system can change that, so it must be a matter of majority regulation. We do, after all, own the American franchise, and have a right to set reasonable rules in our marketplace. To maintain healthy competition, we must ensure it can operate. Kind of Hayek on that, per Road to Serfdom…and isn’t he a bit of a “pinko” as far as some libertarians are concerned?"
Cool stories, bro.