Steroids

[hashem]

Yes, steroids are pretty frickin amazing. I’m sorry you took that to mean they are “fairy dust from this side of Awesomeworld with nothing but upside.” If you presume to be the confidence police and the FDA then I’ll add a warning label for you: there can be dangers. Though in my experience it takes quite an effort to experience anything other than what I called “miracle properties”. A common understanding of “miracle” in this context is a “wonder” or “marvel”. To be extra serious about it, we can see the origin of the word is “to wonder at”. Steroids most definitely do have wonderful and marvelous properties. If you look up “miraculous” you’ll notice two examples are cures and drugs, I feel miracle was a fitting word.

If they can have effects you’ve “never even heard of”, then open your ears. If they “don’t make biological sense”, then study more biology, I guess.

Again, I never denied that they can have downsides. I did say that they will make you superman (not Superman, the american propaganda superhero) and the context was “from your physical appearance to your health—UNLESS YOU ABUSE THEM.” In fact, as to imply that there could potentially be effects that weren’t benefits (i.e. “downsides”) I added “I never took nearly as much for nearly as long as anyone else I knew, and I never noticed anything but benefits.”

For the umpteenth time, you and probably everyone here knows why the government regulates anything that they regulate or would like to regulate, including but not limited to steroids. Regulating gives them power over us (i.e. another excuse to prosecute us). Someone who can decide or heavily influence what people do can be said to have power over people.

It is indeed my belief that ultimately, things are regulated (outlawed was a bad word) to prevent (or at least slow) the world from becoming a better place. The regulators don’t want a better place, because they would have less (no?) excuse to regulate. If we can manage our health without political intervention, that eliminates the “need” for a truly gigantic chunk of government.

You must accept my apology for refusing to elighten you. You clearly know everything, and have still managed to miss everything, and I fear attempting to enlighten you would draw me further into your silly game of “I know what you mean, but I’ll pretend I don’t and play devils advocate while twisting your words”. Thank you for quoting me, and everyone is free to read (and understand) my own words in context.

[Matthew]

I was just joking, Johny boy.

[John_James]

@hashem

Yes, steroids are pretty frickin amazing. I’m sorry you took that to mean they are “fairy dust from this side of Awesomeworld with nothing but upside.”

I didn’t take that to mean that. I couldn’t have. Because you never said that until now. Had you just said “pretty frickin amazing” to begin with, I don’t think I would have had any trouble buying it.

But again, it is “steroids will make you bigger, stronger, faster, and healthier whether or not you want it. […] They can make your wounds heal like something from a movie, they can make you overcome an illness like you never had it, and they can make your manhood grow bigger than it otherwise would”, and “They will make you superman” that led me to the realm of fairy dust.

I also never said you denied there were downsides, I simply pointed out that you completely neglected to mention any…or even the simple fact that there are any. And you have yet to do so. The best you’ve been able to do so far is continue with this “I never denied that they can have downsides” strawman so as not to sound completely irrational.

And yes, you were lucky enough to have not capitalized the word “superman” so that you may now claim you weren’t talking about the actual superhero, but if that were the case, grammatically you would need an indefinite article (i.e. the word “a”) to precede it, as “superman” not capitalized is a common noun. So you’re either lying (and bad with the rules of capitalization), or you have an incredibly poor command of English grammar. (In which case I can’t be held responsible for believing you meant what you said, as it’s not my fault that you didn’t.)

A common understanding of “miracle” in this context is a “wonder” or “marvel”. To be extra serious about it, we can see the origin of the word is “to wonder at”. Steroids most definitely do have wonderful and marvelous properties. If you look up “miraculous” you’ll notice two examples are cures and drugs, I feel miracle was a fitting word.

I quoted the top definition for the word, which insists that a miracle is a supernatural event. But on top that, there is your supporting examples, which give just as much, if not more, of a paranormal aire to the substance. Again, when someone says “like something from a movie”, that’s pretty much the exact picture they’re trying to paint…“not of this world”.

I mean, if you’d like to challenge this, please, by all means, provide an example of the kind of movie you were thinking when you made that comparison. I, however won’t be holding my breath waiting for you to come up with one that doesn’t involve supernatural beings or occurances.

If they can have effects you’ve “never even heard of”, then open your ears. If they “don’t make biological sense”, then study more biology, I guess.

Maybe I’m naive about the true size of the population of males who are stricken with microorchidism, but I just find it hard to believe that all these pre-pubescent testes found on bodybuilders are actually larger than they otherwise would have been, had these guys not got on the juice.

I never took nearly as much for nearly as long as anyone else I knew, and I never noticed anything but benefits.

Which again begs the question why you ever stopped.

Someone who can decide or heavily influence what people do can be said to have power over people.

I can agree to that…which is why, again, it would seem to me that this “power over other people” would have to exist before the regulation can have any of this influence, yes? So again, it makes one wonder how regulating steroids (i.e. exercising already existent power) gives someone power.

@hashem

It is indeed my belief that ultimately, things are regulated (outlawed was a bad word) to prevent (or at least slow) the world from becoming a better place.

Uh…isn’t that what I said you said? And you came back building strawmen and trying to pretend you didn’t say that?

You must accept my apology for refusing to elighten you. You clearly know everything, and have still managed to miss everything, and I fear attempting to enlighten you would draw me further into your silly game of “I know what you mean, but I’ll pretend I don’t and play devils advocate while twisting your words”.

Well wait a minute…which is it? Did I miss everything, or do I know what you mean and am just pretending I don’t?

Thank you for quoting me, and everyone is free to read (and understand) my own words in context.

Let’s hope for you that people don’t believe you actually mean what you say.

[hashem]

troll much…i never intended on doing them indefinitely, that would be abusing them and would lead to negative effects. ultimately i stopped because i couldnt afford to any more. i said they can make your manhood larger if used properly during early puberty, the size of a grown bodybuilders testes is entirely a different subject. anyways, in my experience they have all the properties of a “miracle” drug if used responsibly.

[banned]

i said they can make your manhood larger if used properly during early puberty

Has there ever been a study demonstrating this? Or are you stating conjecture?