The facade of 'class struggle'

In 1848 Marx wrote this in the Communist Manifesto:

“Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinct feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other — Bourgeoisie and Proletariat.”

In Capital Volume 3, Chapter on Classes he wrote:

“The owners merely of labour-power, owners of capital, and land-owners, whose respective sources of income are wages, profit and ground-rent, in other words, wage-labourers, capitalists and land-owners, constitute then three big classes of modern society based upon the capitalist mode of production.”

At the end of this chapter Marx goes on to say:

“However, from this standpoint, physicians and officials, e.g., would also constitute two classes, for they belong to two distinct social groups, the members of each of these groups receiving their revenue from one and the same source. The same would also be true of the infinite fragmentation of interest and rank into which the division of social labour splits labourers as well as capitalists and landlords-the latter, e.g., into owners of vineyards, farm owners, owners of forests, mine owners and owners of fisheries.”

Then the third volume of Capital ends…

I propose to this group that the Marxist theory of class struggle is a facade formulated by Marx in order to substantiate his historical materialism dialectic. The idea of ‘classes’ in a society are ambiguous and can be carried out to suit the subjective needs of the viewer as Marx described in his above statement. Capitalists are in constant competition in acquiring wealth and resources, certainly not thinking of ‘class interests’. The workers themselves can be described as thus “This organisation of the proletarians into a class, and, consequently into a political party, is continually being upset again by the competition between the workers themselves.” Therefore, both capitalists and workers are continually competing with one another under the premise of self-interest. We have here above the ‘logic progression’ [if it can be called such] of Marx’s inevitable class antagonism theory. From a theory of simplification of classes into either Bourgeois or Proletariat into a hints of a complex multi-class system with Ricardian flavor. If there is a multi-class system where one can be in any class at any time at any point of there life, then it is absurd to establish the claim that society will advance from the inevitable ‘consciousness’ of a class that is so haphazardly defined. Marxists to date are constantly changing what it means to be a proletariat in order to sustain their dying religion. I had recently been told that the proletariat class was now everyone from the lower to middle classes. Certainly Marx did not see the ‘middle class’ as the proletariat, perhaps in his mind they could be pushed into that class but it is very clearly stated that they are workers who make only subsistence. Capitalists themselves were described as those sustaining their lifestyles on ‘surplus profit’ and nothing else, yet Bill Gates labors for his corporation [however much he does is irrelevent, for when he labors he stops being a ‘capitalist’] and yet these serve as examples of the facade I am presenting. Class could mean anything to anyone and this is only confirmed by continued Marxist revisionism.

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You just love to critisise Marx laughing man, I’m going to give your essay about Marx a read when I have time.

Destroy the foundation and the building topples. Enjoy the essay.

Marx isn’t the foundation. Marxism was just one fashion of communism, communism is a very, very old idea.

Where can I find the essay? I’d really like to read it.

Few Socialists are capable of thought beyond Marx. I’ve never meet a professor of Mably’s or Babeuf’s doctrine. Marx is their pedastal God, the supposed Socialist soothsayer.

Materialism vs. Millennialism: The Paradox of Marx

found it, thanks.

For the same reason that all inflationists rely on Keynes. But that doesn’t mean refuting Keynes will make them give up their inflationist ideas.

That doesn’t mean that there is no use in criticizing Keynes.

By refuting their key figure, who will they look to for new ideas when it can all be traced back to a single foundation.

They don’t need new ideas, theirs is an old idea with new fashions that come and go.

Many communists have becomes environmentalists, for example. They no longer need Marx.

Just occurred to me, Al Gore is the new Marx.

Then dispute that key figure.

Sad but true. If people are looking to man like Gore and no longer even drapping their ideas in pseudo-Marxist “intellectualism”, are the odds of winning them over by having a systemic intellectual philosophy higher or lower?

Marx wrapped himself in a cloak of pseudo philosophy and dialectics. However contradictory or ridiculous Marx’s premises may have been, he at least was more intellectual then Al Gore.

More intellectual, perhaps. Gore is a master of manipulating the masses psychologically.

Most people aren’t intellectual. They don’t reason. They just want to parrot what sounds good, what looks good and what everyone else seems to believe. Gore understands that. He could have made An Inconvenient Truth about how inconvenient it is to have brown people, or old people or airplanes, and people would have coalesced around that, because they want to be led, they aren’t particularly concerned with where they are going.

We are a minority.

But we ourselves have theoreticians who produce works, we have the Mises institute which is constantly pumping out information, we have the truth. They have Sorelian myths. Truth will win the day.

You cannot win them over, but you can isolate them and make it simple to destroy their power.