Things we can do - t-shirts :)

Miscellaneous General
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I’ve just stumbled upon this idea, though it must be a no-brainer.

Took me about 10 minutes using free software to create this (hope it does not show, heh).

Could anyone suggest more sites like zazzle? I am not completely happy with their content policy.

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http://www.vforvoluntary.com/store

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Wow, thanks!

I knew the idea must be in wide use already :slight_smile:

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I love the individual sovereignty t shirt.

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Mises.org’s store has t-shirts. Rothbard is quite cool.

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Mises.org’s store has t-shirts. Rothbard is quite cool.

Right, but we all can do that (both design and marketing), in slightly various ways. That’s better than a single centralized way, ain’t it?

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I’m confused by the grammar. “How do you call this when it’s ‘voluntary’?” doesn’t really make sense.

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What software did you use?

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“How do you ccall * it * this when it’s voluntary?”

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Still makes no sense, and that is not what is printed on the shirts. I quoted it correctly. I assume it is supposed to be, “How do you call this ‘voluntary’?” or perhaps, “How can you call this ‘voluntary’?”

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I like the ‘property of NO ONE’ shirts.

I would like to see one that says ‘Ask not what your country can do for you, PERIOD’

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That was bugging me too. Even then it’s still confusing. Who calls it voluntary? (Well, who except for Harry Reid)

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http://www.cafepress.com/+libertarian+t-shirts There are some good ones here scattered around.

“Libertarianism: the radical notion that you don’t own other people.”

“1984 is not an instruction manual.”

“Irony is a statist calling an anarchist a threat to society.”

“1913: Worst. Year. Ever.”

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http://scifigeektees.com/search/pg=1&prod=Tees_T-shirts_Gift_Ideas/mises.htm

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I quoted it correctly. I assume it is supposed to be, “How do you call this ‘voluntary’?” or perhaps, “How can you call this ‘voluntary’?”

Well, English is not my first language (or even my second). The idea was to say that taxation is theft. To say that directly would be too blunt a message (not to mention the site has a policy against suggesting breaking laws), so I tried to be more subtle. The picture means robbery. “This” refers to the picture. How do you call robbery when the robber pretends it’s voluntary (thus scary quotes)? I would appreciate any suggestions for improvement of wording.

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What software did you use?

Inkscape, as I wanted quick result in vector graphics.

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I would like to see one that says ‘Ask not what your country can do for you, PERIOD’

Hope there won’t be any issues with IP if someone implements this idea? :wink:

Seriously, I will think about it, sounds great.

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Well, as I stated above I don’t think there’s very many people who argue that taxation is voluntary. I think the conflict comes in the fact that they differentiate taxation from other types of taking things by force. They have to concede taxes aren’t voluntary, but they simply justify the force by saying it’s “necessary”…or that it’s not force…or at least not theft. If you watch this interview of Alan Colmes, you’ll see how admits it’s not voluntary, but refuses to admit it’s force. You’ll also notice how he attempts to justify it by speaking of a “contract” that people have with the society they live in.

In other words, you might not be able to get around using the word “theft”, depending on how subtle you’re willing to be. Phrases you might consider:

  • “It’s not theft. It’s taxation.”
  • “It’s not theft if it’s for the public good.”
  • “Taxation. Because other people need your money more than you.”
  • “It’s not what you think. It’s just April 15th.”
  • “Don’t worry. He’s from the government.”

Or if it has to deal with voluntary:

  • “If it’s not voluntary, what is it?”
  • “What do you call it if it’s not voluntary?”
  • “What is this called?”
  • “Who said taxes aren’t voluntary?”

And a two sided one might be:

Front: What’s going on in this picture?

Back: Taxation or theft?

or

Front: What is this called?

Back: (Same picture & text as front, except guy with gun has a badge)

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Thanks for ideas!

Front: What is this called?

Back: (Same picture & text as front, except guy with gun has a badge)

I had a similar idea - front: picture and text “BAD”. Back: picture and a guy has a badge, text is “GOOD?!”

I am still unsure how aggressively the site is going to enforce its policy against breaking the laws, so I prefer to be subtle at the moment.

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Saying taxation is theft or is against the law is not suggesting that anyone break the law. In fact it’s suggesting that the law is being broken and should be followed. I’m pretty sure there are laws against suggesting people to break the law too…but libertarian writers aren’t in jail for writing about how the tax system is legalized theft.