This thread locked by Moderator, a sour apple or a legitimate question?

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"From a non-economic (more philosophical) viewpoint I am curious what you guys think in regards to being “that” guy that a girl sleeps with when she decides to cheat on her boyfriend.

I recently was critisized for being “that” guy that slept with a girl that was unhappy with her relationship and wanted to have a good time with someone else. I am framed as only looking out for what I want and not being “decent”.

My take on it is this: I don’t own this girl’s body, if she is unhappy with her relationship and wants to sleep with someone else then that’s her decision to make and so be it, I get laid in the process, sweet. I didn’t break any contracts or agreements on my end so I didn’t really do anything wrong. Or am I just an a-hole?"

Perhaps my framing wasn’t executed in the best fashion, however, I was probing the morality and philosophical viewpoint in regard to this act from other posters on here. I am always intrigued by the viewpoints people have on controversial issues here given their knowledge of the NAP, MIses’ Human Action, objectivism, what is “selfishness” etc..

Given that I have read many posts in the past in regard to child pornography, prostitution, drunk driving etc. I didn’t feel that I was asking anything too off the deep end of what has already been discussed in the past on here and just wanted to hear the thoughts of others.

I wasn’t trying to troll or do anything other than bounce the question off of a few of you here.

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I don’t think you were trying to troll.

The problem is the NAP is more or less some type of legal code. We aren’t really talking about personal behavior here. Is it agasinst the NAP if one attends church? What is more NAP Coke or Pepsi, etc. Who is it OK to listen to if you’re a libertarian Beethoven or Bach?

When people start getting too much into this type of thing, cult like behavior ensues and than in order to be more correct we all have to smoke cigerettes, because “it is a grand symbol of the mind”, and we have to choose a good “rational” brand, or something like that. Not only that, this line of thought, which is waaay ancilliary to any political theory (honestly how many countries that matter arrest you for cheating?) invite psychologizers, who are the worst kind of people

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But isn’t a legal code based on personal behavior and what the community feels is right or wrong?

So the many Islamic countries that still stone women to death, for this very act (albeit in wedlock, and this is against the woman not the “other guy” which is more what I’m referring to) where it is part of their law, are irrelevant? I’m not trying to turn the discussion to this topic but I do believe this is a very real and valid point to discuss from a philosophical perspective.

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As much as I still don’t understand and am baffled abut the question I am about to phrase;

Why not just ask " What does the NAP have to say about adultry/affairs/cheating/(choose word here)? What is the point of the personal story? I just think doing the personal situation on “applied life ethics” (and that is a very generous way of phrasing that term) is not what this web site is about.

So the many Islamic countries that still stone women to death

For the record, and this is the only thing I will say about this…I doubt you have really anything tangible or even know that much about any of these countries. They probably have less to do with you than your favorite TV show. I doubt they matter all that much as anything other than a hobgoblin, a dragon to slay, or a theoretical metaphysical Aesop.

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So to be clear:

Yes it was probably just an issue in phrasing that set off my red flag. If it was just something like “How would the NAP deal with cheating”, I probably wouldn’t have really noticed. Maybe I am extra cautious on threads that look like they are asking for personal or financial advice.

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I will make sure, in my posts from now on, to reword and strip all personal remarks and keep it more general. Is that satisfactory?

I will not respond to this ad-hominem.

While I wasn’t seeking any personal advice, in regards to personal/financial advice there have been threads like this before that have been fully discussed and drifted away after a short time. I have started one other thread before that a moderator didn’t agree with and he (Liberty Student) left his opinion and left the thread open to interpretation. I got the idea and haven’t started a similar thread since. There was no need to lock it, not give me a chance to respond, then start your own thread justifying what you did, then lock THAT thread both times preventing me from even responding.

William: I edited something out because I felt that I was out of line in saying it, I have no business telling you how you should or should not behave and I apologize.

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William I edited something out of the last post because I felt that I was out of line in saying it, I have no business telling you how you should or should not behave and I apologize.

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I doubt you have really anything tangible or even know that much about any of these countries. They probably have less to do with you than your favorite TV show

Didn’t mean it as such. It was more of an illustration. As in I am affected by, attached to, have more “emapthy” for, or what ever word you want to choose about my fav TV shows than the millions of atrocities that people rant about that go on in the real world. This is demonstrated by actions (choosing to watch show x over spending time helping people in Rawanda). In bringing up such atrocities, I would do nothing more than create an Aesop, and is a form of intellectualism / hobby horse that has no weight unless subsidized. These things simply don’t matter.

This is the second post to a tertiary point, hopefully this clears up that it was not an insult to you, but a simple demonstration as to how people behave in general.

I have started one other thread before that a moderator didn’t agree with and he (Liberty Student) left his opinion and left the thread open to interpretation. I got the idea and haven’t started a similar thread since. There was no need to lock it, not give me a chance to respond, then start your own thread justifying what you did, then lock THAT thread both times preventing me from even responding.

If I am reading this right, the thread I started wasn’t really a justification thread. It was a post by moderators for moderators to read. It was simply telling other moderators what I did, why I did it, and why I acted alone on it, so that way they knew a thread got locked. I accidently sent the post to the wrong forum for about a minute. If that is what you saw, that is why you had no chance to respond. It was beyond the function of what was posted.

If you feel slighted, or whatever this is the place to seek public justification NOT on threads in the general discussion forum, ever. This forum is your chance to respond to such things, not the locked thread or any other thread in the general discussion forum.

William: I edited something out because I felt that I was out of line in saying it, I have no business telling you how you should or should not behave and I apologize.

No prob and no need to apologize. While I can’t speak for others, in the members area discussions or via PM you canconsider what ever you think your business is with kme as your business. That is the point of this forum. If you feel compeled to say something, do so.