Too high liability for protection insurance

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@Helloween

I don’t understand why you call a monopolist libertarian security provider “government”. It could be confused with its opposite, non-libertarian organizations which are also called “government”.

From wiktionary on government:

government (countable and uncountable; plural governments)

1. The body with the power to make and/or enforce laws to control a country, land area, people or organization.
2. A group of people who hold a monopoly on the legitimate use of force in a given territory.
3. The state and its administration viewed as the ruling political power.
4. (uncountable) The management or control of a system.
5. The tenure of a chief of state.

Looks to me like FlyingAxe is using the term properly.

@Helloween

You are free to ignore an airline you don’t like. But you cannot say no to the force which necessarily must be used by a justice system. Thus, per definition, there cannot exist a market for justice systems. The criminal is not a customer, he may not choose his punishment.

I will quote myself from this post earlier in the thread:

@gotlucky

I suggest you read What Law Is and A Praxeological Account of Law by forum member Clayton. Those should give you some idea of how disputes are settled, which should give you an idea why it would be unlikely that Private Defense Agencies would be in the business of initiating force (mainly because it’s so damn expensive!).

@Helloween

Theft and fraud can be highly profitable. For sure, thieves have a demand for protection against those who insist that they should be punished for their crimes. What surprises me is that anarcho capitalists say that it is good that thieves compete against honest people, by establishing their own security providers, i.e. violent organizations, which have their own anti-libertarian laws. Groups of people would create violent organization in order to fight against the jews or the rich, because they would profit from doing so. That’s anarcho capitalistic, but it certainly is not libertarian.

Source? I have yet to see any anarcho-capitalist say such a thing.

@Helloween

Basic criminal law in many modern societies is quite libertarian already, and the court procedures apply very sound principles. That little part of the government actually works very well and does protect peoples rights. It is the rest of the government, often 100 times bigger, which is wrong, basically because it has made itself immune against the very criminal law which prohibits theft and use of force.

No. Unsubstantiated assertions.