We NEED public education, because education shouldn't be a business.

If we made all education private, then how will the very poor be able to afford it? How will they be educated? Sure, the current system isn’t perfect, but it’s a decent way of getting the most children educated. If it was private, the poor would get shitty education, or none at all. The disparity would be tremendous. It’s just buying yourself the best education, and that’s not right. It isn’t considering the importance of educating the broad base of our youth.

Provate education is all about money. It would just be a business, and that isn’t what education should be about.

What’s your definition of “education”? And what do you think it should be all about?

These posts remind me of the initial reaction that anyone on the street has to these issues.

By getting jobs and sacrificing other things in order to pay for it.

This is actually not my problem.

I’m not sure I would call the current indoctrination system of means testing to the LCD “education.”

You are “verifying” your own presumptions. This is not provable anymore than: “If Hitler won WWII, we’d all speak German.” It is that pesky “if” that really makes it difficult to tell things about the past or future.

Why isn’t this okay? You sound jealous.

Why is it my responsibility to pay for other people’s things in life?

I think you meant “private.”

And education would not be all about money. It would be about providing the best service possible in order to obtain money. You haters always seem to omit that part.

I’m on my mobile… can someone post the TEDx Glasgow video on this?

@kylio27

People here don’t care about consequences, only about their set of principles. They’re also for totally private health-care. If you’re poor and can’t afford- you’ll die of some curable disease, tough luck, it’s the capitalist way things go.

That is not capitalism. That is Darwinism. No, not social darwinism (it is wrong headed to think they are different).

Simple fact is human society is just as bound in nature as wolves or parrots or monkeys. Dogs have litters. Litters have runts. The runts die and this furthers the genes of those that can survive.

The shame is that the system, in various ways, can make people poor or rich through illegtimiate mechanisms.

As opposed to your set of principles? Or do the consequences that stem from your principles eliminate your principles and their consequences as being in the categories of “principles” and “consequences.” They must be above judgement in that way…they are just self-evident positives…res ipsa loquitur…

The lady doth protest too much, methinks…

Scarcity is a structural fact of our environment. The characteristics of the social order can exacerbate the ever-present problem of scarcity but no social order - capitalist, communist or otherwise - can abolish scarcity. The only question left is which social orders exacerbate scarcity and how this question can be answered.

Clayton -

@kylio27

“You call them public schools. We call them programming facilities.” - The Nightly News (graphic novel)

Anyone still doubt someone is a troll?

Which one? We’ve got two strong candidates in this thread.

Obviously, me.

Serious. Bring back the Nike shoes, satellite tv and cheap airline tickets. At least the genuine spam had a point.

Exactly. That is why I like them. They keep us on our toes.

If you actually care, the reading list is here:

http://candlemind.com/projects/progclub/file/michael/getEducated.php?listID=9

If you don’t care, then the list is not there.

Wheylous, isn’t that James Tooley article on the Freeman awesome? Btw, the Tooley article you link to Forbes.com just links to the Forbes homepage.

Thanks Maynard, was rippin my hair out

Ragnar, put the link in regular characters and it will embed. Easiest way is to copy into notepad (I think Word will keep the link intact) and then recopy and paste it.

Good stuff comes from competition in the market, not from a bloated monopoly mafia which we jokingly call government. 'Nuff said

Private food production is all about money, how the hell the poor are not starving?

Private fashion industry is all about money, how the hell the poor are not naked?