In a recent debate with a mutualist, we’ve been discussing credit unions and interest rates as “theft” in general.
He believes that charging interest on loans is theft, except for simple transaction costs. In his mind, credit unions can then push down interst charged on loans dramatically, almost to zero, but would still be able to give competative interest rates to its depositers because it’s not for profit.
I was obviously skeptical of someone being able to offer near 0% interest on loans with competative, but he directed me to his credit union’s site, https://www.becu.org/, and sure enough they offer their interest rates at a pretty good level.
As their page shows, he obvious exagerated the “near 0%”, but it is interesting to see them offer a much higher interest rate to depositors than someone else, say, JPMorgan Chase.
So my question is, are credit unions really better than for-profit investors in every way?
He believes that charging interest on loans is theft, except for simple transaction costs
This is quasi-religious nonsense. In the current environment, where banks have been coopted by the state, I don’t think credit unions play by the same rules, so they are able to stick to more conservative lending policies.
The obverse of very low interest rates for loans is even lower interest rates for savings. So what’s the saver/lender getting out of it?
He believes that the credit union is trying its best to eliminate charging interest, but since it needs to cover its costs it has to charge a little bit, and he’s just getting any spillover that they have. The reason that it’s still competative though even though its basically accidentally incurred is that it’s not a for-profit business and it’s not going to the “owners” of the bank, since the customers are now the owners.
the money goes to the owners in either system difference is simply who the owners are.
if people have a voluntary nonprofit bank and make their income elsewhere they could go for cost of operations in prices, but if people have to make a living from working at the credit union costs will be higher.
0 interest and a fee can be a worse deal than interest and a rebate or no fee.