Nice to see we are keeping the discussion nice and civil.
Once again. All troops dont kill innocent civilians and babies. So this is a mischaracterization meant to illicit an emotional reaction. A cheap tactic used by advocates of the state.
For some reason no one here wants to make any distinctions. War is a horrible thing. The only good choice is to not go to war. Everything else is horrible. In most every war of modern times the soldiers who did the fighting had nothing to gain from the war. Most did not want to go to war. Most veterans wont even talk about what they have seen or done, much less are proud of killing. They may be proud for other reasons but your average soldier does not rejoice in all the death they have seen.
Its very clear cut when we talk of wars with a draft. The wars going on now are no doubt less clear. If what yall say is true, how do you explain the christmas truce of WWI. These are bloodthirsty killers according to you. Yet they laid down their arms played soccer, sang songs, and refused to fight. It was not untill they were threaten with death and imprisonment that they began to fight again.
And as you said to me in another thread it only takes one exception to disprove a point. The christmas truce disproves yours.