I was wondering what politicians out there in the U.S follow the liberal program. I like most of the liberal program-- except for a few things. II agree with the liberal principles on free trade with how free trade should be all over the world. I also agree with the liberals government interference for the most part and how it should be minimal and how tariffs and price ceilings should be abolished, that, immigration should be allowed, that people should face equality under the law (or get rid of the laws that discriminate against individuals).
I was wondering just liberal politicians there are in the senate or congress. I am not talking about the people who call themselves liberals when they’re really taking anti-liberal positions. I was wondering about the real liberals themselves who follow the liberal program and I’m not talking about conservatives either. These conservatives are not to be confused with liberals.
My problem with some of these people is that they’re classical liberal or libertarian on pretty much all economical positions. They don’t like governmental interference in the economy. Yet they’ll advocate for government interference in immigration. They don’t know about comparative advantages and how one land can be better than another-- so the people of the poorer land would naturally want to go to our country but they can’t because they’re barred to by immigration policies. It’s economically unproductive to not allow willing immigrants who want to work in our country to come.
My other problem is that some of these people take many of the liberal positions and the libertarian positions but they have no problems with war. They don’t understand that the liberal and the libertarian position is anti-war and pro-peace. It’s not anti-self defense, but, it’s anti-aggressive war. They just think that they can have economic freedom and have the nation at war when they don’t understand the consequences of war. This is why I find it so hard to find the right political candidate… it’s because usually in one of these areas they’ll disagree with each other yet-- so they say they’re for economic freedom but in fact they’re promoting certain policies that restrict economic freedom and economic mobility between nations.
I like Ron Paul myself. I just would like to see more people in Washington who share similar views.
I just looked up Jeff Flake on the issues and it seems that he’s just a typical Republican. He’s not a real liberal or libertarian. I am asking about real liberals-- not Republicans or conservatives who just use liberal rhetoric to make it sound like they’re for economic freedom. There is not enough of actual true liberals like Ron Paul in congress or the senate. I just wish there were more people who stood for freedom. It’s like all the people in congress or the senate who stand for freedom on some issues seem to want to deny freedom on other issues.
Generally, people who want libertarian ideals don’t get elected. You might join the Libertarian Party, just understand that not all the candidates you find there are real Libertarians. Screen your candidates carefully, and be prepared to support the loser.
I have been thinking about joining the libertarian political party. But I am afraid to join them because I’m afraid that they’re just a bunch of neocon strong military pro-market types. I need to do more research on the libertarian candidates who have ran for office. I could see myself joining a liberal party. I agree with the liberals on many issues. But I’m just afraid that the libertarian party has been infested by Republicans who are disgruntled from the GOP.
In many ways the LP has become a haven for dissatisfied Republicans. Which isn’t to say that everyone there is a right-wing totalitarian, but generally political third parties aren’t going to turn anyone away because they need the voters. If those people then become candidates with name recognition who pay lip service to the party platform… for example, all throughout his campaign I couldn’t shake the concern that Bob Barr was just using the LP to get spotlight. He knew he’d never make it as a Republican candidate, so he snuck in as a Libertarian. I think his VP, Root, would have been a better choice.
It should be noted, the LP is better described as consequentialist libertarian rather than deonological libertarian.
