None of them believed in natural rights, so yes they were positivists. But it’s to be expected - all ‘great philosophers’ laugh at such naive idea as natural rights…
A rather unconventional definition of the term “positivist”. Furthermore, I do not comprehend how anybody who does not believe in divine relevation can possibly believe there are such things as natural rights, without the antropology that it provides, natural rights is a laughably obsolete theory.
An efficient legal system is able to prevent crime from greatly harming society as a whole: compare Darfur, and Somalia to the Western world.
I don’t see any rebelling against the state; therefore, you speak falsely for you do comply with the state. As British common law deftly states: silence is consent, and while you may scream as much as you want against the “tyranny” of the state, ironically enough, your actions are silent for you do not take any steps against the state.
I suggest you actually learn some basic ethics for the fact is that natural rights, outside of the Catholic church (ironically enough) and other Christian religions, is a dead theory.
Without “religious, pseudo-philosophical beliefs” man is nothing but homo sapiens, a material animal, but I digress. Natural rights are simply untenable in a non-theistic framework for it lacks the necessary anthropology.
And all, sorry to inform you, absolutely worthless (frankly, I had to write papers for actual philosophy classes, you know where the person your talking to knows another moral author other than Rothbard, so I didn’t bother responding to you). The rights of man are all subjective valuations. It is not man qua homo sapiens that has the right to life; rather, it is the ontological valuation of what is a “man” by individuals that projects rights upon homo sapiens. By the way, if you are going to respond to this, leave religion out of it for religion has absolutely nothing to do with this point per se.
Somalia is not full of people that are unwilling to comply with the “authorities”. I don’t know anything about Darfur.
You obviously have no idea what I am talking about. Check out freetalklive.com, freekeene.com, and freestateproject.org. Once enough people move there, they will stop paying property taxes. Say goodbye to the government of the city of Keene. Eventually, you will say goodbye to the government of the State of New Hampshire and all of the local governments in the area.
Compare the mass genocide the western world has inflicted on indigenous populations, and now peoples of Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Pakistan etc.
The law is meaingless Lam. It’s just a fiction to keep the domestic population stupid and thankful. There are no laws, no rights, no justice. There is only the exercise of power covertly domestically, and brutally internationally.
And yet the Western world itself is quite peaceful, we need not throw out the baby with the bath water, nor should we equivocate all the policies of Western governments into a single idealized monster. I never stated that all Western policies are just, but rather that the Western world seems to have been rather successful in the creation of a prosperous society. Furthermore, I never said it has never unleashed destruction.
Someone has been drinking far too much cool-aid. Indeed, you sound like some nihilistic communist intellectual perched upon his ivory tower; in fact, it is a strange shift of perspective from the radically anti-intellectual voice you often seem to be.
There certainly are laws: they are social conventions, one cannot deny the existence of that which is the case.
Perhaps, but I never said that there were objective rights in the first place - you are pontificating to the wrong person
There is justice: the yardstick of justice is how conductive the laws are to social interactions.
Again, I never said that what you say was not the case. Furthermore, the excercise of power can be done in a fashion that aids social interactions
But even if it was the idealized peace you seem to believe occurs around you, the violence is merely exported and inflicted on foreigners, to create the false prosperity enjoyed in the west. Without Asian production and savings or Arab oil and sovereign wealth funds, the West would have had to face the financial guillotines much earlier. If not for the wanton destruction of Europe and Japan, America might never have become THE superpower.
The reality is, your social progress, and your western exceptionalism, has been built on the dead bodies of millions of non-whites and the poor. So don’t preach about western law. It’s a farce. The law you speak of is not order, and it is not justice. It’s just a means of compartmentalizing and rationalizing the mass murder that has put you in the position you are in today, enjoying the spoils of war as you do.