What Would I do Without Government As It Exists Now?

I do not think “Worse Off” is determined by income. The federal government does that with their poverty lists, I suppose? To me “worse off” is more a state of mind.

I do not think “Worse Off” is determined by income. The federal government does that with their poverty lists, I suppose? To me “worse off” is more a state of mind.

I agree with you, because you are thinking clearly. However, please explain that to the keynesians and micro-gods who think that $$$'s and “Utles” are what determines whether people are better off or not.

Maybe we should say, monetarily* you are worse off.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

Households in the top quintile, 77% of which had two or more income earners, had incomes exceeding $91,705. Households in the mid quintile, with a mean of approximately one income earner per household had incomes between $36,000 and $57,657

One major thing to keep in mind when reading these charts is that the distribution curve if income, wealth, and other assetts rises exponentially as it approaches the top. So, in the above, saying "40-50% of the people had incomes of 36k-57k means that 40 had 36k, 41 had 36.2k, 42 had 36.6k,… 48 had 55.7k, 49 had 57k, etc.

The real “average” joe earns at the most 40k in his/her household.

The 2006 economic survey also found that households in the top two income quintiles, those with an annual household income exceeding $60,000

Notice only 20% of the country earns above 60k/year total income.

(Another note is that I don’t much care for income distirbutions. Even as concentrated as they are, they pale in comparison to actual wealth distribution and debt distribution in the United States, as you will see in my first link)

Lao, in terms of income, not wealth, even your data seems to me to display the fact that the average income is still about 45K a year and that the majority do make more than 35K a year.

Also, the top two quintiles making over 60 K a year means that this is 40 percent of the country, not 20 percent. Please correct my if I have misinterpreted anything, I am not the best with data.

i don’t believe that government is really necessary to help people who have bad runs of luck.i don’t know if many here people noticed new zealand my nation had a bad earth quake before japans. a situation came about where thousands of people homes were destroyed and there was no way the government could even think of fixing that problem. so what happened.families and friends and strangers offered accommodation food.i never heard of one person weather a tourist or kiwi with out a bed I’m sure there must of been someone somewhere.we offered our house but took a while to even get a tourist stay.my question would be do we really need a robin hood to do good.i have heard from tom woods. i think that the 1880s were the would most charitable time in history didn’t have big welfare then and productivity was far lower.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/STTable?_bm=y&-qr_name=ACS_2009_5YR_G00_S1901&-geo_id=01000US&-ds_name=ACS_2009_5YR_G00_&-_lang=en&-format=&-CONTEXT=st

According the the rep at the US Census B this link represents the most current information the government currently has on such data. While other information might exist, I was told, it ‘pulls’ from their data and simply represents a best guess of that “researcher”. But, i have no clue.

Obviously my 1/3 was incorrect. I believe I picked that fact up from 1/3 of the world living on less than “X” dollars(which was an obscenely low number).

I can not confirm or deny. I am simply parroting what I was told.

I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again

There’s nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

  • The Who, Won’t Get Fooled Again

I find that the biggest problem most “f’d up” people have is the belief that they are “f’d up”. When you realize there is really nothing wrong with you you suddenly become well. I was forced to see psychologists as a kid. I cared then what people thought of me as much as I care now. If Ron Paul gallops along in glimmering armor and slays the fire breathing dragon and you can’t dodge your wife’s bullets, send her to me. Send your pay to me as well. I’ll bite your bullet.