Why have a Central Bank?

I have read and rearead Human Action and Rothbard’s Mystery of Basnking and understand that back in the day when economies were still based on some type of commodity money the governments and banks joined forces in a scheme to create money out of thin air. The goverments got the financing they needed for projects or to fight wars without raising taxes and the banks got the big interest payments and the ability to greatly expand their fractional reserve racket. In thoes days if government just created paper money people were smart enough not to trust the state to not run wild with inflation. The central bank thing fooled them into thinking it was a more trusworthy system.

But now that all money is all basically fiat money, what is the purpose of keeping up these central banks. The conspiracy theory advocats see it as part ot the plot of international bankers to control the world economy. It seems to me if governments are allowing the central bank to create money out of thin air to buy government bonds, it should be more cost effective for the government to just print and circulate the money it needs, like Lincoln’s greenbacks during the War Between the States.

Am I missing something? Why do we continue to use a central bank? It certainly does not seem to control inflation. Obviously some type of commidity money is ideal but at least if the government just issued its own money it would be clear to citizens who to blame for inflation. Also it would eliminate all the interest payments made on money created by loans.

Is there something I am not understanding here or is the whole central bank thing just a smoke screen to cover up who is responsable for inflation and to make international bankers richer?

It’s to keep the system working. If there was no central bank/monopoly-money then the government and its partners would lose the ability to (easily) steal wealth from the people who create it.

The gov’t does issue its own money. It’s called the dollar.

The Federal Reserve is no less a part of the government than the treasury department is.

Hi Juan

Thanks for responding. Your response is bassiclly what I thought was true. Except for the part about the dollar. The big problem for me seems to be that US currency is created by the Fed using its notes to purchase government securities. Instead of borrowing money from the Fed and creating more debt, wouldn’t it me more efficent to just issue and use US Government paper money. I think it was Thomas Edison that said if the government can issue a bond it can also issue a note. Both are promises to pay but the government dosent have to pay interest on its notes (paper money). Woudn’t this sove a lot of the nations debt problems?

I am not an economist so I just wanted to see if there is a problem with my way of thinking about this problem.

Hi Jon,

Thanks for responding. If the Fed is part of the government why is it owned and controlled by major private financial instutions and why does the Fed purchase government securities. It makes no sense to me for the government to borrow from itself money created out of thin air when it has the power to create money the same way without becoming indebted.

The central bank organizes the national banking cartel, to make sure that losses, loans and inflation are all socialized. The institution keeps potentially insurgent full reserve banks or warehouses from creeping up. It prevents banks from offering non-fiat monetary instruments, and severly limits their ability to set their own rates and standards of exchange.

The current system is much more subtle. The point of expanding credit is that the government does not want its activities to be noticed - it could just tax if efficiency were the issue.

-Jon

A Central Bank’s only role is to raise funds for governments or kings.

Federal Reserve Banking is a conspiracy between the judiciary which permits the distortion of the concepts of a deposit and a loan; the Central Bank which can raise funds unseen; and the banks which can take part in an unbelievably profitable government backed scheem to enrich themselves.

You are right, Central Banks do not control inflation: they are the cause of it.

It would be simpler. And would likely give the game away faster. Still, dollar bills are not ‘private’ money. “This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private” - signed by the treasurer of the US - not by Morgan.

True. And in both cases, the only way for the gov’t to get the wealth to pay these promises is by stealing it from its subjects.

The government doesn’t really pay interest on its bonds either - taxpayers do. The gov’t pays its bills with the wealth they confiscate using inflation and taxation. If the government wants to control even more resources the government needs to borrow them - that’s why it has to pay interest.

Hm. I’m not sure what you mean by the ‘nation’. Are you talking about the government ? The gov’t is not interested in ‘solving’ its debt problems…

Central banks perform a number of functions; basically they act as the government’s own bank, holding the government checking accounts and collecting tax receipts, facilitating the issuance of bonds, etc. They are also frequently given regulatory functions, such as the enforcement of fractional reserves, as is done in the U.S. But central banks also exist in countries that don’t use a fractional reserve system, such as Britain. Central banks act as an interface between the government and the country’s banking system. They also serve as lender of last resort to banks with liquidity problems.

What is the significance of the fact that the American Federal Reserve banks are privately owned? In my view, very little. If you look back historically, when Hamilton first organized the national government’s financial system, he supported the creation of a privately owned central bank, because that is the way England did it. When J.P. Morgan acted to control the Panic of 1907, he was acting in effect as a private central bank. The creation of the Federal Reserve system in 1912 was an attempt to maintain the private character of the central bank while ensuring government control.

Would the government save money by not paying interest on the bonds held by the Federal Reserve? Since 1964 the government has levied a 100% tax on the profits of the Federal Reserve system, so the money goes right back into the Treasury anyhow.

Except as DiLorenzo has recently pointed out, the FED is incredibly wasteful and prone to abuse.

I think the issue of the FED being private is a huge deal. It’s another layer of obfuscation.

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Indeed Juan, I can’t believe I missed that. Afaik, there are no full reserve central banks left in the world.

Thanks for your response.

My confusion comes from reading some of the conspiracy theory books such as The Creature from and viewing the Money Master Video. I don’t know if you have been exposed to these works. They give strong arguments that control of central banks by private investors enable a small elite to have a powerful influence and are moving the world toward a one world government controlled by them. Based on the old Amshel Rothschild quote: “Permit me to issue and control the money of a nations, and I care not who makes the laws.”

So you feel that there is no truth to these conspiracy theories. That there is no one profitting from the central banking ststem.

I had never knew that there was a 100% banking system in Britain. I always thought the Bank of England was the mother of debt money creation. Are you sure that the creation of the Fed wasn’t really an attempt to create the illusion of government control over a banking cartel created for the benefit of private banking concerns.

Let me be sure I understand. You are saying that the purpose of the central bank is to prevent a free banking system from opperating? So who benefits from this? certainly not the people who would benefit from a sound money system controlled by the free market.

I totally disagree with this. There are obvious winners and losers, particularly multi-generational families of winners and losers who benefit from statism and it’s institutions. One has to look no further than Franklin Roosevelt, whose bloodline was tied to many previous Presidents, or the Bush family, which has been active and successful in politics and banking for at least a century.

To deny that there are not groups that profit, would be to deny the Morgans and the Rockefellers, which Rothbard seemed to believe were real forces in the creation of the Federal Reserve system (Case Against the FED)

Really though, everyone in high finance benefits from an inflationary system. They get the new money as it is issued, and they get the benefit of it before the prices rise in response to the increase in the quantity of money. By the time it trickles down to us regular jerks, the prices have already risen. They get more money; the only effect we get is money that buys less.

Yes.

Bankers, the government and people whose business are subsidized through inflation - among others.

Ron,

You are quite right about both Rothschild’s quote and your statement that Britain does not have a 100% reserve system.

Private banks played an extremely important role in financing nations and issuing their currencies in the 19th Century, and the Rothschild’s among others profited greatly from this. During the 20th Century governments took more of this responsibility themselves; the American formation of the Federal Reserve system was part of that trend. If you look at the politcal rhetoric at the time, gaining control over such parties as Morgan and the Rothschilds was one of the main objectives of the creation of the system. As late as World War I the British govenment allowed a Morgan - Rothschild syndicate to monopolize the issuance of government debt. Winston Churchill marveled in his history of World War II that he was able to finance the whole of WWII with directly issued bonds at 2% interest, when the WWI bonds had required 6% interest. There were other reasons for the difference, but the profits of the Morgan - Rothschild syndicate were surely among them.

Time was not kind to the Rothschilds. Their American affiliate, LF Rothschild, failed in the savings and loan crisis in the 80’s, and the French Government - at that time in the hands of the Socialists - nationalized all French banks, including Rothschild, and paid the stockholders almost nothing. The Rothschilds complained at the time that the price paid was less than the market value of only one of their bank’s holdings, the metals firm Le Nickel. Today the Rothschilds mainly make the finest wines in the world - Lafitte Rothschild and Mouton Rothschild.

The Morgan firm survived and prospered. It was split in three in the 1930’s - Morgan Bank, Morgan Stanley Securities, and Morgan Grenfell in London - by the Glass Steagall Act. Morgan bank over time absorbed most of the other New York banks except Citibank, and Morgan Stanley is still a bulge bracket Wall Street firm. Now that Morgan Chase has taken over Bear Stearns, J.P. Morgan’s old universal bank has now regained all the functions it used to have. And of course the Chase in the title means it has taken over the old Rockefeller interests as well. Morgan’s son, J.P. Morgan, Jr. decided to go with the Morgan Stanley rather than the bank. The Morgan and Rockefeller interests have been so diluted over the years by acquisitions and the effect of inheritance taxes that neither family plays a significant role in any of the successor companies today.

Britain does NOT have a 100% reserve system. It has no explicit reserve requirements at all. That is why it is considered the mother of all debt creation. In practice, British banks do keep some reserves, but that usually amounts at most to a few percent, rather than the 10% US banks must keep, or the 17% that Chinese banks must currently keep. (China has been raising its reserve requirement in a failing attempt to contain inflation).

The real issue here is the money supply. The money supply consist of currency in circulation and the value of bank checking deposits. Economists call this M1. If the money supply keeps pace with economic growth, the economy’s overall price level tends to be stable. If the money supply fails to keep up with economic growth, there is a deflation in the general level of prices, and if the money supply grows faster than ecconomic growth, there is inflation in the general level of prices. Keynesian economics exploits a loophole in this general rule, but that’s really beyond this discussion. Economists have spent their whole careers arguing about the proper definition of the money supply, but the best research shows that M1 is the most usable measure. So there are two ways in which an inflation can occur - the government can print too much money (currency in circulation) or banks can create too many checking deposits.

A banking system - any banking system - creates money in the form of checking accounts. This money arises from debt. When a bank makes a loan, it deposits the proceeds in the customer checking account. This loan is self-funding i.e. the deposit that the bank is lending comes from the customers own money. Now this money doesn’t stay in the bank very long because the customer will spend it, but at the end of the day, it will wind up in some bank. Hence the total money supply has been increased. The bank just needs to be sure that it has enough money coming in from new deposits to fund the loan. In a certain sense this is free money to the banking system as a whole, and that is what the critics find objectionable.

A 100% reserve system would not permit banks to lend out any money at all from deposits; they would have to maintain 100% of the deposit in currency, so that the money supply would consist totally of currency in circulation. It is not at all clear that this would be a better system, for one thing bank service charges would increase dramatically, since banks would get no economic benefit from the deposits, and for another loan rates would rise signigicantly, since all loans would have to be funded by money raised in capital markets. The bottom line is that this would represent a huge free loan from the public to the government (because after all that is what currency is, a piece of paper which cost the government almost nothing but by legal tender statutes must be accepted in payment).

Using gold for the 100% percent reserve would create its own problems, since the supply of gold rarely matches the growth in the economy. The US has some history in this policy; when the country was on a gold standard in the 19th Century, it experienced an inflation when the discovery of gold in California increased the money supply significantly, and it experienced a deflation from about 1870 - 1900, as the economy grew faster than the gold supply. That deflation was fairly severe - the general price level dropped about 30%. Hence William Jennings Brian’s famous declamation “Thou shalt not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold!”. The economy experienced regular depressions and panics.

We’ve really had only one depression since the formation of the Federal Reserve system, and that was caused by the failure of the Federal Reserve chairman, Eugene Meyer, and the Treasury Secretary, Andrew Mellon, to use the system to prevent the banking failures of the early thirties, which led to the Bank Holiday declared by Franklyn Roosevelt, which really crashed the economy already weakened by the stock market decline in 1929.

There are indeed people exploiting our banking and investment systems today; not the dead hand of J.P. Morgan or Amshel Rothschild, but rather George Soros, Michael Milken, and their brethren who have been looting the wealth of America through junk bonds, subprime mortgages, structured investment vehicles, collaterized debt obligations, etc.

Is the Federal Reserve system a good system? As Churchill said about democracy “It’s the worst possible system, except for all of those other systems.”

Wow. Somebodys gunna get a hurt real bad.

  1. This is false. 2. Churchill was a statist warmonger. You may as well quote Adolf Hitler here, he’s got as much cachet with this crowd.