William F. Buckley Jr.

Recently, at John Birch Society’s website, I was reading how Buckley was an ally of Robert Welch Jr., when he suddenly turned against him, and made scathing criticisms of the John Birch Society for the rest of his life.

The Buckley name sounded familiar. Suddenly, I remembered the Rothbard article from Myth of National Defense, where he mentioned a conservative called Buckley who criticised the libertarian movement for wasting too much time on privatising municipal garbage disposal.

John Birch Society. Rothbardian libertarians.

Why was this man wasting his time on fringe movements? Why was he criticising groups which have no large influence in the core politics in the first place?

Both the John Birch Society and the scattered Austrian thinkers used to be well regarded, writing for major journals and the like. The choice was between the Laissez-Faire Old Style Liberalism advocated by Mises, Hazlitt and few select others, and the Conservative movement that had risen against the New Deal. William F. Buckley was the new guy in town, but his “anti-communism needs a strong state” rhetoric won over the public. Hence, Neo Conservatism. (And the Neo-Liberals in Europe, who are similar to the Neo Conservatives from America in most respects)

So, while some people may say that Austrian thought is more popular now it has ever been before, one could argue the reverse also, Austrian theory is largely ignored academically and institutionally today, but had at least a small place at the table before. I actually shudder at the new arrivals waving the banner of protectionism in the name of Ron Paul. =p

Is the motto, “Can’t beat Neo-Conservatism, must join with Paleo Conservatives to win!”?

To answer your question: Yes, Buckley saw Ayn Rand, John Birch, Rothbard, Mises (Not really that important anymore since he was largely inactive in his later years) as foes, and purged them. Back then, it actually mattered if major journals carried your views, as it was one of the few means one could launch discussions to a large audience. When the black out began, all schools of thought other than the Neo Conservative were put to rest. Ayn Rand’s “Objectivist” cult did manage to get some popularity simply from her novels’ appeal though, but many rememebr those days as bittersweet. Lot’s of college students may have liked Atlas Shrugged, but they tend to remember Ayn Rand with a bittersweet taste in their mouth.

Hayek was the most state-friendly of the Austrians and thus was not black listed. Still, no one actually took his advice, save for some lip service on occasion.

I recommend Mises: The Last Knight of Liberalism; it is not just a biography of Mises, it is the entire history of the Austrian movement in one nice package. Go take a look.

Buckley and his editorial ilk were in cahoots with the CIA to forge public opinion via character assassination and propaganda. Operation Mockingbird, anyone…?

Or he is just an ass who liked to pass himself off as some defender of freedom, the American version of James Bond.

James Bond was one man putting his life on the line to prevent war. Buckley was one man not putting his life on the line to promote war. [:#]

Well he was a CIA agent or some nonsense. So he may have put his life on the line, I’m not sure, since I’m still living then I assume it is because he didn’t tell me.

Checking the videos of this guy, although he was often quite rude and ill-mannered with guests, he still had a classy and sophisticated style, talking quite like a sexy villain from a movie, so I imagine women would have loved watching Buckley on television, as would have the men married to those women, so they could try to be like that. [:D]

I have very ambivalent feelings about William F. Buckley Jr.

First of all, he can be a very lucid and brilliant writer and has written some objective and important books, such as McCarthy and His Enemies.

And one must remember that he and his magazine, National Review, critisised many federally enforced expriments of social engineering such as Civil Right acts of 1964. And he had even courage to critisise the extreme militarism of some of his National Review pals a couple of years before he died.

But unfortunately he always tried to be socially accepted to the intellectual circles and that caused many times that he had to take very horrible positions in many issues. That caused him to hate everything that the “old right” promoted, such as isolationism and states rights. He was notoriously a militant war hawk and when his friend Frank S. Meyer reviewed favorably a book that was critical of Abraham Lincoln’s stance on civil libertarian issues, Buckley simply banned all criticism of Lincoln.

Take a look at this Q&A article in New York Times with author of the forthcoming biography about WFB (I liked the Whittaker Chambers biography by Sam Tanenhaus). If Mr. Tanenhaus is right on what he says, this interview demolishes almost everything that I tought was good about Bill Buckley.

http://papercuts.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/qa-with-sam-tanenhaus-on-william-f-buckley/

Here is just one example:

Q: Did he [= Buckley] ever recant his opposition to the civil rights movement? —Chris

A: Yes, he did. He said it was a mistake for National Review not to have supported the civil rights legislation of 1964-65, and later supported a national holiday honoring Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., whom he grew to admire a good deal, above all for combining spiritual and political values.

Hmm I did not know that Buckley started National Review and I have a 2 year subscription and read it from front to back every issue I get. THE MORE YOU KNOW.

This thread should serve as a lesson to all libertarians. If you ever want a viable political movement, you should not attack your most successful natural ally of the last century. I see from the comment above that some people seem to lack historical appreciation of political movements… Something similar could be said to the shriller attacks on Milton Friedman, who, besides his pet project of Monetarism, was the free market’s most influential and charismatic spokesperson in the second half of the 20th century. Buckley got stuff done on the biggest stage, remember - stuff most libertarians approved of wholeheartedly. That fact should be particularly biting for libertarians, especially the so-called Randians, whose contribution to national politics was Alan Greenspan.

Buckley was no statist. He was certainly for arming America, but he (and his protege Reagan) hastened the liberation of 100 million living under Soviet rule by presenting a very credible threat to their plans for world domination. Few people appreciate the wisdom of Truman for drawing a line in the sand. Buckley and Reagan did the same thing. If the West hadn’t had a group of undermining group of confused leftist intellectuals urging us to make peace with the Evil Empire, countless lives would have been saved.

I’m aware of what Buckley apparently thought of Rothbard, and I won’t excuse his obituary, which I found in particularly bad taste. However, that same disregard did not apply to many Miseans who wrote for NR in its earlier years (Hazlitt, I believe, wrote for them for years). I’ve also never read anything suggesting Buckley disliked Mises. As for Rand, personally, can you blame him? She apparently once said to him “You’re too smart to believe in God.” The man was a devout, articulate, and pious Catholic. Insulting much?

I’m one very un-influential person, but if could change one thing about the loosely affiliated libertarian movement, it would be to work towards something productive where you have a lot of sympathy - say, ending the Fed. Be strategic and take over a wing of the Republican party, and this agenda has a chance. That’s a big enough goal. Fighting 90% of the nation at once, which I sadly observe too often, is about as practical as trying to re-establish Church rule over secular affairs. Good luck!

I would NOT encourage vicious attacks on the conservative mainstream, your best allies. (And if one is going to suggest that Buckley had attacked the libertarian movement unfairly at times, it may be true… but he had a lot more power and influence than any libertarian; power he assembled himself.)

From the book by Murry Rothbard called the Betrayal of the American Right

The fall of the Soviet Union was definitely not caused by militarism, unless you want to claim that the military arms race forced the Soviets to struggle to keep up, but if that is the case you cannot say it “saved” 100 million lives. Especially considering the military budget may have gone to other things, even then it is simply not the case. There was very little Western influence in the Soviet Union, the revolts were internal.

If anything, we should credit the peoples within the Soviet Union for rising up spontaneously, not take some silly stance that our noble philosopher kings pressured the Russians into just giving up the fight. If you recall, desperate reforms were taking place in the Soviet Union long before Reagan. You cannot say containment worked, it did not stop the spread at all, but it did kill a lot of people.

As for allying with the conservatives? So we can get some half-assed legislation passed? No thanks.

The Soviet Union perished precisely because it was intent on imperialism. Let the empires bleed themselves dry.

Truman lifted policies from communist writings. Some line that is.

Just watch Buckley vs Chomsky on youtube for a perfect presentation of Buckley’s totally neo-con stance of American world wide responsibility.

Here’s something even better.

Here’s the editor of the National Review writing communist articles under a different name.

http://marxists.org/history/etol/writers/burnham/index.htm

Pardon my harsh language, but can you believe shit like this? I don’t like to go so far as alleging neoconservatives to be a front of a Marxist international movement, but here you have a foremost CIA-based neoconservative writer also doing articles for Marxist publications. What the fuck am I seeing here?

EDIT: Look at this article by this neoconservative James Burnham http://marxists.org/history/etol/writers/burnham/1936/09/party.html

Lew Rockwell did an interview on anti-war radio about Buckley right after his death. It isn’t flattering. For instance, Rockwell accuses Buckley of specializing in the “attack obituary” recalling Buckley’s remarks about Rothbard after his death.

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Yeah, and if that little nugget which shows that certain neoconservatives are actually Marxists, and who are known to have said that they make compromises to what they say in order to slowly be able to push their main agenda, then the worst thing any libertarian can do is ally with these people.

Remember that by the standards of those times, it was not even normal to consider bombing nations abroad pre-emptively as even a viable solution to anything. It is, in fact, a form of neurosis and expression of sociopathy, and these are the guys who desensitized the public into thinking these things normal.

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