Woman attacked by Rand Paul Supporters at Debate

Miscellaneous Current Events
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It sure doesn’t look like a very libertarian crowd out there to support Rand Paul… but then, that makes sense, because hardly any of Rand Paul’s positions are truly libertarian.

In fact, in two-party American politics, libertarian ideology’s only function is to provide a justification for removing any government programs aimed helping the underdog (i.e., the Civil Rights Act, welfare, social security, Medicare, OSHA, minimum wage laws, public works projects etc), while of course these same “small government” politicians always ignore any government programs which benefit the top dogs (i.e., the Pentagon budget, corporate personhood, private prisons, corporate fee-based health-care etc.)

These Rand Paul supporters seem to get it, which is probably why they’re so enthusistically stomping on someone smaller and weaker than them!

LEXINGTON, Ky. – Supporters of Republican U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul wrestled a woman to the ground and one stepped on her head after she tried to confront the candidate in Kentucky.

The incident happened Monday night in Lexington right before a debate between Paul and Democratic opponent Jack Conway.

Lauren Valle of liberal group MoveOn.org, told Louisville station WDRB she was trying to give Paul a fake award when his supporters took her to the ground.

Television footage shows Valle’s blonde wig being pulled off before she’s pinned to the ground. A man then puts his foot down on her head. Valle said the incident left her with “a bit of a headache.”

A police watch commander said early Tuesday [of course] that she didn’t know if any arrests were made [despite the perps face being fully visible on camera]…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNYtTYb9V5g

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  1. So what’s the context here? Why did she get that treatment?

  2. It might be faked. It wouldn’t surprise me.

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Rand Paul says he ‘admired’ Jim Bunning, who repeatedly blocked unemployment benefits

“the one thing I really admired [Bunning] was that he wasn’t afraid to stand on principle.”

Untermenschen who cannot compete on the market deserve no sympathy! Our principles are our boots on their faces, forever!

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How are you going to post this, right as I am posting the same thing?

I should curb stomp you man! (joke)

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Ravochol is lost again… he keeps getting mises.org confused with his personal blog.

Still waiting on that debate.org challenge.

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She came to give Rand Paul a “Republi-corp employee of the month award.” THat’s all.

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For the record, in a government created crisis, the government is very much liable to the unemployed.

At the very least, it’s the unemployed getting their money back that they paid in the form of inflation, sales tax, income tax, employer’s payroll tax, and so on. Less than that, actually.

The amount set aside for it was far far less than what was put in for TARP, which created a moral hazard with depositor’s money far more dangerous than short-term unemployment insurance.

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No, it’s not that they don’t deserve help. It’s that it is immoral to steal from others to give to them. Doing this opens the door for even more moral hazard and more social democracy.

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“more social democracy.”

heaven forbid! Then we’d turn into a poor third-world nation, like Germany!

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(Or even Switzerland!)

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If Germany was such a social democracy you’d think that people would be running amok on the streets as a result of spending cuts by the government. The truth is, Germans are different from French people who are different from Greeks who are different from the Brits who are different from the Americans. The Germans I know don’t pride themselves or their country on redistributing things to poor people, but on a sense of industry and needing to contribute. Depending on the values of the society, social democracy might be more tanable than in other nations, but it still doesn’t last in the long run because:

-Alexander Fraser Tytler

Essentially, everyone discovers that they have the right to steal from everyone else. Is this the society we should live in? Where no one has a definite claim to any property?

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Switzerland more closely resembles a voluntary association than a government. Luxembourg and Singapore even more so… These are libertarian victories.

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It’s them getting their own money back, GiantJoe.

Inflationary policies have a regressive effect that hit the lower fixed income earners the hardest, not just in the form of reduced purchasing power but the depletion of scarce capital of businesses that employ them. Their employers also have to make them work longer for less pay, because of the payroll taxes borne by the employer.

At least under the former conditions, when good labour gets more expensive, employers tend to bear it in the form of bad labour for the same price. One of the good qualities of an employee is honesty, and it becomes more typical for dishonest people to work for the same wages under inflation and other regressive means of collecting incomes. It’s a cost borne in the form of rotten values of all people in general.

Even if unemployment insurance does create a moral hazard to remain unemployed, it’s a reversal of the cost of getting worse quality people for the same pay.

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This love affair with Germany is all very common with some people far away in USA. If you actually knew more about Germany you would realise some interesting facts, like the fact that the German states that have more “Social Democracy” are also the poorer ones. If you want to focus on more purest Social Democracies then focus on countries like Spain or France first. Germany has problems but is nowhere near as your utopian ideals.

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What makes me sick about Germany is that everyone attributes its relative success to their own pet theories.

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“Untermenschen who cannot compete on the market deserve no sympathy! Our principles are our boots on their faces, forever!”

It’s your belief, not ours, that there are subhumans amongst us. Also: If you resist the state, you will get a boot in your face. The principle of all statism is boot to the face, if you resist. All statism requires lots of prisons and not to mention wars, both of which, I assure you, will involve boot stomping. Much more than the random incidents – having to do with politics, not the market or voluntarism – like this one at a Rand Paul gathering.

Imagine yourself in a marriage. Which would you rather be in: one where you each buy each other things on the threat of being murdered if not… or one that is based on the actual want to give things? There is a big difference. And it is two separate principles, even if both involve exchanges. Just as it is two separate principles for a woman to defend herself with force against those that would force her to have sex, versus a man who wants sex and uses force in order to get what he wants.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if this were a staged event, i.e. those alleged “Rand Paul supporters” were nothing of the sort.

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I still don’t understand giving Paul the “RepubliCorp” award, considering he has not been elected to anything and so has not crafted nor voted on any legislation.

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It’s the bass-ackwards progressivist ideology: we must celebrate how much we can pamper people, and we must celebrate how we smash the successful people to reach this end! Those who have the ability to excel must be handicapped. Being better than anyone by any measure is evil!

A society that worships those who can only get by on charity is a society in decline.

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“I still don’t understand giving Paul the “RepubliCorp” award, considering he has not been elected to anything and so has not crafted nor voted on any legislation.”

I think it’s the same reason they probably don’t even look at the voting record of Democrats and so also create a Democorp award. They don’t really care about empiricism or the facts of politics. But just the LOLz for their blog or some knee-jerk reaction.