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“Most importantly, we are losing the battle at home. We must dramatically reduce the size and scope of government.”

Which parts and/or programs?–bloomj31

I would start with the federal reserve, department of education, SEC, department of energy, et al.

basic gut 95% of the federal bureaucracy.

the following is a job creation machine that would insure American hegemony for 100 years:

(1) reduce or eliminate corporate taxes

(2)privatize public education

(3) eliminate cap and trade, global warming, and other environmental “boogeymen”

(4)privatize social security and health care.

(5) aggressively harvest domestic energy reserves

(6) expand free trade.

(7) develop a comprehensive missile defense system

(8) disengage from open-ended conflicts and joint defense agreements abroad

(9) secure our borders, while at the same time streamlining LEGAL immigration

(10) sell all non-defense related government properties to the highest bidder.

and lastly, quit the UN, IMF, World Bank and other multi-governmental organizations.

IN summary, I guess that means that I would keep the department of defense, intelligence community agencies, and state department (with reduced funding) and dissolve or drastically reduce the others.

olovetto,

My semantics may be flawed. I was thinking from hobbes’ framework which stated that anarchic = constant conflict.

of course I dont believe in a world government.

a series of democratic states would be anarchic, not in the hobbesian sense, but they would be peaceful while pursuing their own interests.

in contrast, throw some large autocratic regimes in the equation, hobbes’ world view is realized.

lastly, there are 50+ higher order democracies as defined by various NGO’s or non-profits. DO you think that any of these would engage in conflict?

for example, pick any of them on the freedom house website and develop what you think is a realistic scenario in which they would fight.

i dont think you can identify anything remotely plausible, hence your “lol @ the rest” is short sighted.

1, 2, 3, 4 are basically politically impossible, but I’d be ok with most of it except for getting rid of the Fed and I don’t like 8.

dondoolee,

I think everyone on this website would agree that we are in a battle with statist over the size and scope of government.

it is the most crucial battle of civilization. (see greece)

for example, the welfare state is dead, yet nobody has told the billions of statist zombies worldwide, including the idiot in the white house, speaker of the house, et al.

basic gut 95% of the federal bureaucracy.

So, that will amount to at least 80% of the military budget then eh?

My semantics may be flawed.

It isn’t just your semantics.

I was thinking from hobbes’ framework which stated that anarchic = constant conflict.

Hobbes is wrong. Anarchy means “lack of rulers” not “lack of the rule of law”.

of course I dont believe in a world government.

Why can 200 or so nations peacefully coexist, but not 20,000 or 7 billion people as individuals?

a series of democratic states would be anarchic, not in the hobbesian sense, but they would be peaceful while pursuing their own interests.

This is a false organismic analogy. “Democratic states” don’t have interests. They are comprised of individuals. See about 7 pages ago where I pointed out that you don’t understand what methodological individualism is.

lastly, there are 50+ higher order democracies as defined by various NGO’s or non-profits. DO you think that any of these would engage in conflict?

Based on your definition of “higher order democracies”, there is exactly zero nations with those qualities ever. It is rather ridiculous.

bloom,

i think 1,2,3,4 are very possible.

global warming is all but DOA in Congress thanks to science. even obama is receptive to education vouchers, while these charter schools are still basically public it is a move in the right direction.

with respect to privatize retirement and health care, we dont have a choice. it will be realized in our lifetime whether the statists like it or not since the present government regime is unsustainable. greece and the rest of the EU is showing that the welfare/entitltement state is unsustainable. even sweden has downsized government over the last ten years.

note that since we have had a federal reserve – we have had thousands of bank failures, the dollar has declined 95%, and we have had myriad severe cyclical swings. ALL conditions the federal reserve was suppose to correct when it was created in 1913. INdeed, can anyone name a government agency that has accomplished what it set out to do and then folded its tent and went home ??

I acknowledge I may too extreme and naive regarding 8.

for example, we should be concerned for our security if everyone was in agreement with 8.

“Global warming is all but DOA in Congress”

No, they’re going to get to cap and trade.

“with respect to privatize retirement and health care, we dont have a choice. it will be realized in our lifetime whether the statists like it or not since the present government regime is unsustainable.”

Agreed but it won’t be done now.

Secondarily, the Fed has an obvious use outside its function as lender of last resort. It can be used to fund things that couldn’t be funded as easily without it. It’s an invaluable tool and one I wouldn’t want to be without.

olovetto,

I acknowledge that corruption is part of the costs of defense, but as long as autocratic states exist, defense is necessary.

Note that there are no anarchic states today, hence private defense aint working for you boys, defense within a central government framework is necessary until experience suggests otherwise.

I think your wrong regarding hobbes. I remember reading that according to hobbes states interacted in an anarchic world of soverign states acting in their own self interest led by rulers who were rational and largely sanctioned by the citizenry irrespective of whether they were autocratic or democratic (of course they were no democratic states in hobbes’ time) .

yes , 7 billion soveriegns can peacefully coexist if this fantasy could ever occur , IF there were no autocratic regimes led by self-serving dictators that by its very nature engage in conflict.

lastly, read the freedom house methodology for determining higher order democracies – there are plenty of them and none of them are going to war against each other in our lifetime:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=351&ana_page=354&year=2009

bloom,

i hope your wrong on cap and trade.

nonetheless, if they pass it, we will see a quicker and surer end to the welfare state. indeed, a strong backlash is likely to occur when the middle and lower classes start paying $5/gallon for gas.

i dont like the Fed picking and choosing winners and losers in the private sector. Moreover, I think that instead of acting in the best interests of the market, suitors for Fed largese will start making moves that are based on politics versus sound business practices. FOr example, right now in America most corporations, banks, et al are spending time and money analyzing how they can exploit the federal government for money and favor then simply delivering the best product at the lowest price, hence the overall health of the economy and hence the nation suffers over want for taxpayer dollars instead of consumer dollars.

in summary, giving the fed taxpayer dollars = corruption and misallocation of resources.

Rett, sorry, but you did not answer or even attempt to address the question.

I asked how you would pay for the establishment of American hegemony, which is part of the “big picture” plan you lay out in this thread.

You said, “We are overextended”, and that is an insightful observation, I agree. You say you would use “soft power”, but you do not explain how you would PAY for it. Would you raise taxes? Would you borrow more money? Would you run deficits? Would you print money?

I’m trying to point out that you, too, have an ideology, an ideology based on fantasy because you cannot possibly fund, or pay for, the things you want government to do (at least you haven’t explained how this can be done). You say that you would reduce the size of government, but that is fantasy, it’s naive, it simply won’t happen, in fact it’s going the other direction. The majority do NOT want their benefits cut, and that includes everyone from welfare recipients, to unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, nationalized healthcare, government subsidized industries, and defense. You see, none of it will ever be cut. It will only grow.

It comes down to this: For every government boondoggle, foreign or domestic, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR IT?

From your reply, I take it you don’t have an answer. You don’t know how you would pay for it. Your ideology of simultaneous “limited government” and worldwide American hegemony is contradictory.

I think everyone on this website would agree that we are in a battle with statist over the size and scope of government.

Nope, I am just looking for, cutting, and trying to keep a slice of pie; by whatever means I see fit. There is nothing but forces of varying power that get in the way of that and various means to calculate how to deal with such forces. There are no “groups”, just individuals that roughly seem to act and work within certain definitional and catagorical frameworks; this makes it easier to calculate ones goals and objectives when dealing with individuals.

I don’t “battle” statists, or government, society, or individuals; I just exist to try to fulfill my wants and needs at any given moment to the best of my ability. If I find it is convienent and advantageous for me to reduce the scope and power of some one (be it a government official, soldier, or citizen) or some thing at any given time I will do so.

Rett, I hope I’m wrong too.

“The majority do NOT want their benefits cut, and that includes everyone from welfare recipients, to unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, nationalized healthcare, government subsidized industries, and defense. You see, none of it will ever be cut. It will only grow.”

Absolutely true. There’s no way any of this is getting cut substantially as of present.

Rett, sorry, but you did not answer or even attempt to address the question.

I asked how you would pay for the establishment of American hegemony, which is part of the “big picture” plan you lay out in this thread.

You said, “We are overextended”, and that is an insightful observation, I agree. You say you would use “soft power”, but you do not explain how you would PAY for it. Would you raise taxes? Would you borrow more money? Would you run deficits? Would you print money?

I’m trying to point out that you, too, have an ideology, an ideology based on fantasy because you cannot possibly fund, or pay for, the things you want government to do (at least you haven’t explained how this can be done). You say that you would reduce the size of government, but that is fantasy, it’s naive, it simply won’t happen, in fact it’s going the other direction. The majority do NOT want their benefits cut, and that includes everyone from welfare recipients, to unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, nationalized healthcare, government subsidized industries, and defense. You see, none of it will ever be cut. It will only grow.

It comes down to this: For every government boondoggle, foreign or domestic, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR IT?

From your reply, I take it you don’t have an answer. You don’t know how you would pay for it. Your ideology of simultaneous “limited government” and worldwide American hegemony is contradictory. --chloe732

Yes, I see I did misunderstand the question.

I disagree that government is increasing, true we have seen an increase since the 1930’s and more recently another spike. However, the overall global trend including in the USA is decreasing government. Hence, how can you explain the dramatic increase in standards of living since 1776 while labor minutes to achieve these goods and services have decreased?

moreover, life expectancy has increased significantly since 1776 while infant mortality, poverty, starvation, et al have decreased.

also, free enterprise, free trade, private business, technological advancement et al have all increased in the last 250 years.

These incredibly beneficial changes have not occurred within a period of increasing government since they were all realized by increases in the size and scope of individual and market freedoms recent spikes downward in the USA notwithstanding.

with respect to your question on how to pay for defense, I would advocate a progressive tax system similar to what we have today, however I would set the capital gains rate significantly lower than 35%. I would also eliminate or significantly reduce the corporate tax rate that essentially taxes the consumer and costs jobs. In summary, I would reduce the government share of the GDP to less than 20% from the 45% it is today.

Note that history has shown that significantly reducing taxes and spending in this manner does not significantly reduce tax revenue, indeed in the 1920’s this regime raised tax revenues. More importantly, this regime would lead to long term growth that would dwarf the wealth creation in the high tax, high spend welfare state. Moreover, it would attract direct foreign investment and be a job creation machine. For example, we should make the USA the “mother of all tax havens” that would bury china, japan, the EU, et al for 100 years.

I could reduce taxes in this manner since I would cut most of the federal bureaucracy by eliminating the depts’ of education, environment, energy, et al.

I would also add an amendment to balance the budget (note that the republicans took power in 1994 on this tenet). This alone would be huge.

To fund unusually events like “wars on terror”, “wars on poverty”, wars on despots" et al the government would have to tax the citizenry to pay for these ventures, thus decreasing the likelihood of divisive wars like vietnam, iraq, et al ---- divisive social boondoggles like global warming, war of poverty, et al — and costly bailouts of corporate losers and nations like greece.

sorry for the late reply, I am multitasking right now.

Rett, I hope I’m wrong too.

“The majority do NOT want their benefits cut, and that includes everyone from welfare recipients, to unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, nationalized healthcare, government subsidized industries, and defense. You see, none of it will ever be cut. It will only grow.”

Absolutely true. There’s no way any of this is getting cut substantially as of present.–bloomj31

these programs will be cut in our lifetime, they are unsustainable.

however, I agree with you that the majority dont want their benefits cut. sadly, there will be blood in the streets within our lifetime

thats why I am long on gold and ammo.

as the chinese say:

“may you live in interesting times”

“these programs will be cut in our lifetime, they are unsustainable.”

Agreed.

“that’s why I’m long on gold and ammo.”

Me too.

I did not see if anyone answered this (long thread), but I recall hearing this countered with the example of Churchill declaring war on democratic Finland in 1941 at the behest of Stalin. (I don’t recall the exact context or source but pretty sure the speaker was Ralph Raico.)

According to Ted Carpenter, Rummel’s Power Kills failed to take into account many factors that may have influenced the apparent “democratic peace” that reigned post-WWI. (See his review)

Are you familiar with Christopher Layne? Kant or Cant: The Myth of Democratic Peace Your thoughts?

Also, you refer to democratic states being “…peaceful while pursuing their own interests.” Would being “peaceful” exclude military strikes which did not lead to war, or spying? I am thinking specifically of the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty, and the AIPAC espionage controversy - two of many examples of hostile relations between democratic countries that I would not think of as peaceful, but did not result in total war.

^Its because Rettoper uses this criterion of “higher order democracy”, so he can ignore it when level 1 democracies make war on level 2 democracies. He uses the definitions set forward by freedom house, which basically receives funding from the US government, and then ranks US friendly nations highly, and our enemies low.

Rett,

Your history lesson from 1776, etc. has no bearing on the question of how to pay for foreign adventures (ie, establishing American hegemony to usher in Pax Americana).

Rett: "however I would set the capital gains rate significantly lower than 35%. "

Why? Why lower than 35%? What’s so special about 35%? Is 30% “significantly lower”? Would you drop it to 0.001%? Why are you willing to confiscate one type of income at higher rates while making a distinction for capital gains?

Rett: “I would also eliminate or significantly reduce the corporate tax rate that essentially taxes the consumer and costs jobs.”

But what about sole proprietor, partnership, limited liability company, s-corporation, and so on as defined by the imperial tax code? Don’t these types of entities create jobs? Why tax them at a higher rate than on corporations? Why is a higher tax rate on corporations detrimental to job creation, but higher tax rates on the other forms on business entity A-OK? I contend your tweaking of the tax code is arbitrary. It was basis for the “Reagan Revolution”, which obviously failed to shrink government one iota.

Your balanced budget amendment: the States have had decades to ratify such an amendment, still waiting…

You say you would tax the citizenry to finance the various “wars on…fill in the blank”; yes, you and I finally agree, the citizenry will be taxed. If that was the only source of government funding then, yes, boondoggle wars would be reduced and decreased in frequency. But taxes are not the only source, you have not addressed borrowing and printing. You say you would end the Fed, but it will never happen, it can’t happen because of $13 trillion in debt, $1.5 trillion deficits, $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities (Ron Paul has made his point, but he can’t possibly expect the Fed will actually be ended since it is the ultimate source for government spending, and Congress knows it.) Who sounds naive and who sounds realistic, you or me?

Rett: "I could reduce taxes in this manner since I would cut most of the federal bureaucracy by eliminating the depts’ of education, environment, energy, et al."

Cutting the size of government 101:

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Never mind democracies. It is the Soviet dominated Communist countries who were the real bastions of peace.

Did there ever in the history of the world one Soviet dominated Communist country go to war with another Soviet dominated Communist country? Never.

There is your receipe for peace. Ressurect the Soviet Union and have it dominate the whole world = peace on Earth.

“But taxes are not the only source, you have not addressed borrowing and printing.”

The power to tax and the power to borrow are in the Constitution and there are no real limits to those powers and the power to print is a little more complicated but that power will not be taken away anytime soon.

But, as an answer to your question, all three methods of payment will be used.