About David Friedman

It’s an achiever’s name.

Percussionist David Friedman

Music composer David Friedman

MSNBC economic journalist David Friedman

Pornographer David Friedman

Videogame fanfic author and anarchist blogger David Friedman (born again in his religion as Dafyyd ab Hugh)

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Paramount producer David Friedman

Professional photographer David Friedman

Religious scholar David Friedman

Statistician David Friedman

Teenage 80s TV show star David Friedman

I swear, guys, the list is endless. I also ommited Australian cricketer David Friedman, and then even mathematician David Friedman, and a famous Canadian lawyer named David Friedman. A quick search at linkedin also shows there are hundreds of highly valued Silicon Valley professionals named David Friedman.

It’s a lucky name.

WTF…

Well, considering that among a population of Jews the surname Friedman is common (eighth most common in Israel), this is not a surprise. The given name David is also the fourth most popular among Jews in Israel. It is therefore not surprising that given this group, a large number of individuals will have the name David Friedman (every fourth child with the surname Friedman). Among a population that contains so many individuals with a common name, that a great number of them would be “achievers” should be no shock, since most people have to work for a living, and therefore achieve.

Haha. Achievement he says?

Then there’s the question of why Jews (however the term is defined) are overrepresented in some achievement demographics - notably, Jews are significantly overrepresented in the Forbes’ richest list. My theory is that Jews, as a community/ethnic group, enjoyed a few centuries head-start on European Christians in capital accumulation due to heavy restrictions on lending-at-interest by Christians, while Jews were permitted within the ghettos to lend to Christians. Prohibiting lending discoordinates capital and raises time preference, providing little incentive to save, reducing the capital available to investors, thereby reducing investment. My (very speculative) thesis: European Jewish communities, as sub-communities within the larger aegis of Christian Europe, had a relatively free market in capital and benefited from the Christian prohibition of lending-at-interest within Europe. With better capitalization of their communities, Jews were better situated to educate their offspring and make business investments, leading to the overrepresentation of Jews in many categories of achievement.

I know this is a highly explosive topic what with the recent mass murder of Jews by the German government and the bizarre and irrational proclivities of many Europeans toward superstitions about secret Jewish plots to rule the world, and so on… but I’ve been thinking about this for some time and can’t resist the opportunity to put it out there for comment and criticism. Also note that a similar explanation may be applicable to explaining the overrepresentation of Westerners in various categories of achievement vis-a-vis other “third-world” regions where heavy regulations or outright prohibitions on lending persisted much later than they did in the West. Of course, some of the discrepancy can be explained by simple colonial exploitation and independent trajectories of cultural and technological evolution…

Clayton -

How does something like this, an aspect of life from the middle ages, continue to have an effect today, centuries later?

It’s called genetics.

The average IQ of the Ashkenazim is 115. This is also places them much higher than their Asian brothers in Israel itself, which is why Ashkenazi Jews are the richest and the most well off Jews in Israel. Biological differences are more convenient to some people than others.

A similar level of intelligence has been observed in Han Chinese, and they tend to be much smarter than their Tibetan, Uighur, or minority Chinese counterparts. Just as a Han is smarter than an Uighur, a typical Japanese is smarter than the typical Chinese, with the Japanese also showing stunningly high levels of IQ, placing them VERY well on racial comparisons of academic performance. In China, cotton mills owned and managed by Japanese entrepreneurs showed greater efficiency and productivity than nearby competing Chinese managed mills, thus clearly showing the difference between Japanese and Chinese ability to perform.

Such differences are also observed in the United States, with some of the greatest stock intellectual human capital coming from New England. American history seems to be very biased and favourable towards New England states, and many American Presidents have been shown to come from these northeastern states, as have many top leaders in America. These intellectual differences have been very pronounced historically, and thus can be seen from the racial attitudes of Anglo-Saxons of New England origin among Americans, who had a low opinion of the “white trash” in the South, which consisted of Americans of the German, Belgian, Irish, and other European descent - people who normally weren’t in the habit of learning or reading even when they were literate. Examples of the extent of such racial attitudes can even be seen in H. P. Lovecraft’s short stories, in which backward Dutch descended villagers in New Jersey are described as “mongrels”.

Nature is bigger discriminator than humans are, and interestingly, the success of Jews is the success of free society and free market, as their tapped abilities have allowed them, alongside with Anglo-Saxon Americans, to gain high positions in their respective societies, and thus through their merit and achievements, ethnic groups of less intellectual bent have themselves been able to live better lives. At the same time, comparative advantage also helped uplift the once disdained “white trash” of the South, and we observe a Belgian Irish farmboy like Henry Ford becoming a successful entrepreneur, thus revealing another beautiful trait of free society that there is no zero sum to anything, and the best groups overrepresent themselves quickly and gain all the rewards of it, while even the worst groups manage to capture the remaining and untapped opportunities to pull themselves even higher.

That Ashkenazim (perhaps gifted by Jehovah himself with such amazing intelligence) have been bred for intelligence due to their Mercurian nature and tendency towards specialised professions in urban areas did far more for their position in society than all the discrimination they faced that tried to put them down, shows that humans in free society act out of incentives and constraints rather than petty racial attitudes. The greatest genius of the 20th century, Norbert Weiner became a professor in Ivy League schools in Massachussets, despite the barriers to Jews in such organisations, showing that his Jewish-inherited genius was valued more than the fact that he was a Jew of an alien foreign culture.

I find it funny that you left out the only one I’ve ever heard of David D. Friedman. Who’s perhaps the most known here since he is one of the first anarcho-capitalists, teaches at a university, and has written many books on the subject.

except those stuck in the welfare trap. (members of my family for example).

also IQ is rather culturally biased.

nirgraham, I don’t know why, but hearing that Israel has a western style welfare system suddenly shatters my impression of that place being a concentration of engineers and scientists.

Welfare trap people…IN ISRAEL?!

Do you have a credible source to back that up. This sounds very dubious.

Because maybe the “Asian brothers” came from the more culturally primitive and totalitarian States like Yemen and Morocco, while the Ashkenazis came from the more progressive States that had at least enjoyed some Capitalism, especially during the 19th century.

That is true, but behavioral genetics has found that the differences are much bigger between individuals plunked off randomly from the street then between ethnic and racial groups. In fact, the differences between racial groups is practically negligible. This is why I doubt you IQ assertions.

wikipedia:

Israel is home to the largest Haredi population, at least 600,000–800,000 (out of 6 million Israeli Jews).[17] The number of Haredi Jews in Israel is rising steeply. In 1992, out of a total of 1,500,000 Orthodox Jews world wide, about 550,000 were Haredi (half of them in Israel).[18]The vast majority of Haredi Jews are Ashkenazi. The Haredi community there has adopted a policy of cultural dissociation, but at the same time, it has struggled to remain politically active, perceiving itself as the true protector of the country’s Jewish nature.

The Haredim are relatively poor, compared to other Israelis, but represent an important market sector.[21] Sixty percent of the men do not have regular jobs, preferring religious study, which is heavily subsidized by the government.[22] Consequently, the Israeli Haredim “probably spend more time in formal study than any other class of humans ever has in the history of the planet.”[23] “More than 50 percent live below the poverty line and get state allowances, compared with 15 percent of the rest of the population…”[17] Their families are also larger, usually having six or seven children.[24]

They have both! Former Soviet Russia also had many engineers and scientists.

And to be able to pull that off, I guess you do need an average IQ of 115.

It isn’t clear if Clayton realizes that Jewish law forbade loans at interest to fellow Jews.

I’d say reasons for Jewish over achievement are largely cultural. People tend to forget the Jewish Ghetto had a culture very distinct from its surrounding. One aspect of its culture was puritanism - in the sense there being many restrictions on activities that are a lot of fun. All cultures which are puritanical (except for some who are also ascetic) are also very hard-working. Take Yankees for example. So this was one thing and another was that the Jews also had a very bookish culture. The people who ranked the highest on the social hierarchy were rabbis - priests slash religious scholars.

So even as Jews left the ghetto and over time became from generally speaking one of the most conservative cultures to one of the most liberal ones what stayed with them for a very long time was hard-work and bookishness. Children who became estranged to other aspects of their parents culture still took over their attitude to hard work and learning and would pass that on if not other aspects of it.

this is pretty much my understanding as well. (as accurate/inaccurate as it may be)

Really? In favor of Ashkenazim and Koreans?

its possible to have a biased test that throws up odd results (maybe thats even the definition of bias sometimes), but if you want to make a federal case out of it, I can concede I haven’t spent time studying IQ tests and I can bow to your superior knowledge of the field. or anyone elses.

Yes, I do realize that - hence the very carefully chosen wording in my post on the matter. [;)] I saw a lecture or read an article on the topic where it was mentioned that the law forbade lending with usury to your brother and, since Christians were not the brethren of Jews, the Torah did not forbid lending to Christians. I guess moral legalism has its upside. [:P]

Clayton -