Child Slavery

It’s not. According to the opening post you hold the position that the child has no rights. Therefore, does the father have the right to sell his daughter for sex against her will?

This is still nonsensical. It cannot be determined what the will of a child is.

Yes it can; one can objectively judge whether the daughter wants to or does not want be sold for sex. You are just evading the question.

I don’t know how you can avoid this realization, but the “children have rights” arguments are somehow like asking “can sounds be blue?” No meaning can be evoked from this question.

Who has the right to judge this?

On the basis that the child has reached the age of consent. As Stranger said, when the child wants to become free.

Then you are denying reality. Four year old kids cannot reason.

Why don’t you just answer the question directly? So, I can interpret from your responses that you believe that the father can sell his daughter for sex on the basis that nobody can objectively judge whether she is doing it against her will.

That said, would she not have the right to judge for herself whether or not she wants to be sold for sex? Based on her decision she can choose to employ the services of some kind of individuals to act on behalf of her defense—like a child protection service, or an organization against sex slavery?

How do you know this to be true?

Why does it have to be a four year old kid?

Is there an exact age? Can the child just say to his parent, mid-rape, that he/she wants to be free, then the parent must legally stop and release them from the home? Does the child need to first escape and be taken in by a willing new guardian?

Also, it is sort of ridiculous that Stranger is claiming that no child has ever wanted to be free of his parents, ran away, and been taken in my another person. Here is a bunch of stories, and here is one that probably fits the scenario close enough.

Because it makes no sense.

Once the child can do that, the child is de jure no longer a child.

How do you know this to be true?

I said logically it is possible. Nothing illogical about what E.O. had said. I don’t need to show data for something that is possible.

I’m not sure why the question, “Does the father have a right to sell his daughter for sex against her will?” doesn’t make sense. Obviously it made sense, since you finally gave your answer through three or four posts. Your answer was simply:

  • Children, up to a certain age, do not reason or act willfully [whatever it is].
  • When they do, they can emancipate themselves.

I’m not sure why just stating that directly was so difficult for you.

How is this question relevant?

For example, let’s assume children have rights, as you argue. Let’s assume that sex with a child is “rape”. At what age can a child have sex and it not be considered rape? Is there an exact age?

Everyone is in agreement that there is an “age of consent”, so I don’t know what the confusion for you is.

We are talking about children that have not reached the age of consent. I would guess 14 years old is old enough to have reached the age of consent. A 4 year old has not reached the age of consent, so no, Stranger is not wrong.

That’s not an answer to the question. It is just a semantic clarification.

So how do you know it doesn’t happen?