hello, i understand how Anarchy could work once it is in place.
My question is how does a society enter anarchy?
Looking for any examples in history, or how it could happen in the future.
thx
hello, i understand how Anarchy could work once it is in place.
My question is how does a society enter anarchy?
Looking for any examples in history, or how it could happen in the future.
thx
We already live in one. It is just that we spent the minority of time being opressed by the government.
Look at secession and agorism, they are both examples of how to move towards anarchy.
We don’t enter anarchy, we compete with the existing government.
How would you compete? And if you had enough people to “challenge” the existing, couldnt those people just vote for change?
How would you compete?
Provide alternatives to what the government offers.
And if you had enough people to “challenge” the existing, couldnt those people just vote for change?
Voting can slow the state down a bit but it will not end the state. For that you need alternatives to offer. Voting has been tried again and again. All it has done is, at best, slowed the situation down a little bit.
How would you compete? And if you had enough people to “challenge” the existing, couldnt those people just vote for change?
It takes a lot fewer people to compete than to win elections. Plus the electoral system is rigged by those who win it.
Schaden13:
How would you compete? And if you had enough people to “challenge” the existing, couldnt those people just vote for change?
It takes a lot fewer people to compete than to win elections. Plus the electoral system is rigged by those who win it.
True, but a 3rd party will change the policy of the others.
Or, the first goal would be to change the voting system
Or, the first goal would be to change the voting system
You can create a voting system at any time. The problem is that the state will not follow your orders. It only recognizes one master, the U.S. government (or whatever your country’s government is) and that government has absolutely zero interest in changing the electoral system that feeds it. Your only hope to change the electoral system is to first destroy the government in a coup d’état.
Is that better than just competing multiple governments?
Schaden13:
Or, the first goal would be to change the voting system
You can create a voting system at any time. The problem is that the state will not follow your orders. It only recognizes one master, the U.S. government (or whatever your country’s government is) and that government has absolutely zero interest in changing the electoral system that feeds it. Your only hope to change the electoral system is to first destroy the government in a coup d’état.
Is that better than just competing multiple governments?
To be honest i do not understand this idea of competing governments. Can you explain how it would work, or is there already one out there?
As for the electoral system, im sure any third party would want to change it.
As for the electoral system, im sure any third party would want to change it.
But why would the two main parties, who hold all the power, want to change it? They don’t give a damn what third parties think.
Schaden13:
As for the electoral system, im sure any third party would want to change it.
But why would the two main parties, who hold all the power, want to change it? They don’t give a damn what third parties think.
yes they do, the 3rd party is a pool of voters. If either the D or R lean toward the 3rd they will get more votes.
Stranger:
Schaden13:
As for the electoral system, im sure any third party would want to change it.
But why would the two main parties, who hold all the power, want to change it? They don’t give a damn what third parties think.
yes they do, the 3rd party is a pool of voters. If either the D or R lean toward the 3rd they will get more votes.
They don’t need more votes. They control the vote.
okay, it looks like i can not convince you of the 3rd party power.
Lets go back to your idea. How would you compete with the government?
okay, it looks like i can not convince you of the 3rd party power.
Lets go back to your idea. How would you compete with the government?
That is a long intellectual road. You can start with Hans Hoppe’s Democracy: The God that Failed.
Schaden13:
okay, it looks like i can not convince you of the 3rd party power.
Lets go back to your idea. How would you compete with the government?
That is a long intellectual road. You can start with Hans Hoppe’s Democracy: The God that Failed.
hah, im looking for the how not the why.
You can read Hoppe for the how as well, On the impossibility of limited government and the prospects for a second American revolution, although I would add one more detail to that article: the secessionist groups must not attempt to drive out the government from secessionist regions but to operate in parallel with them.
You can read Hoppe for the how as well, On the impossibility of limited government and the prospects for a second American revolution, although I would add one more detail to that article: the secessionist groups must not attempt to drive out the government from secessionist regions but to operate in parallel with them.
thank you, that was the kind of book i was looking for.