critique some of my axioms

axioms:

people will always disagree because if you disagree then you must be disagreeing.

there must always be an event after this one because to disagree is to produce an event after the previous one.

things that you value exist due to production because to disagree is to produce something you value.

(note: if jon irenicus could help with this that would be great, seeing as he the philosopher around here [H] ).

some specific questions I have are 1) are axioms an accepted, uncontroversial part of logic because I’ve never seen anybody formalize an axiom before though they symbolize many other statements. 2) to me axioms seem to be circular reasoning because they use something explicit in the conclusion statement as the evidence for the conclusion’s truth. Is that true, if not why not? 3) when axioms are written what makes it impossible to just annex anything to a self-evident statement like “unicorns exist” to “man acts”?

Thanks for answering.

Tautology.

Why must there always be an event after this one? Is there an event for me after death?

I value the sun, yet the fact that the sun was “produced” via natural events is a judgment that does not hold absolute certainty; hence, I do not know if everything that I value was produced.

An axiom is something you can’t meaningfully declare false without using it in the process and so proving that it can’t really be declared false.

“I think - so it follows I don’t exist”. Oops.

I don’t think axioms are circular, rather the opposite. They are stand-alone propositions which are more or less self-evident.

awesome =]

perhaps this will be hard for me because I don’t fully understand the nature of self-evident statements but…

I believe a good defence of this is that it is analogous to the action axiom, which also is rather tautological and rests on the tautology that to declare (make an action) an opposite thesis is to act as well.

Here I suppose that my statement rests on the phrases “after this one” and “there must always be”. Suppose that you do die, that will be an event “after this one” namely after me writing this present message and so the axiom remains true. But what happens after your death is a second event “after this one” which may or not be expected under this axiom. The problem with the phrase ‘there must always be’ is that it is ambigous for it could mean either “for every present moment there will be an event after it” or “for every moment after the present one there will always be some event”. I meant the former statement.

Again perhaps I worded it badly since by “produced” I meant by human or other purposeful consciousness. That is to say, for all things produced you value them.