Did Nazis or Russians Use Sodium Fluoride in Water to Make Their POWs/Jews Docile?

I hear they did, but I can’t seem to find any credible sources to back this up.

Did either the Russians or Nazis add sodium fluoride in the water they gave to the Jews/POWs?

I’ve read about this many times, but when I did come across anything written on the subject I was not intentionally looking for it, but more on the dangers of flouride and it’s history in the use of public water. As far as I know they did add flouride to the water.

“I’ve read about this many times, but when I did come across anything written on the subject I was not intentionally looking for it, but more on the dangers of flouride and it’s history in the use of public water. As far as I know they did add flouride to the water.”

is there any source to back this claim up?

wiki is quiet on the matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_poisoning

Re Nazis, two sources are commonly cited. One is a letter by chemist Charles Perkins (see here).

The other is “The Crime and Punishment of IG Farben” by Joseph Borkin. (e.g. this article cites Borkin). However, there is actually no mention of fluoride in the book! I once asked the folks over at Prison Planet about this and got nothing (see here).

yeah…thats the problem…Alex Jones makes all kinds of claims…and talks about having piles of papers and documents, yet rarely ever does he actually post a damn thing to back up his claims…

I need other sources besides rense and prisonplanet…

Call me crazy, but I think it’s a little far-fetched to think that sodium fluoride has mind-control abilities. But then again, I drink water, so I must be a mind-control drone.

“Call me crazy, but I think it’s a little far-fetched to think that sodium fluoride has mind-control abilities. But then again, I drink water, so I must be a mind-control drone.”

Noone here is claiming it has mind control powers…the point made my AJ and others is it dumbs people down…because its toxic and makes them docile…

I see what you did there. (Even if you don’t.) Thanks for a valuable insight.

Krazy Kaju - there’s quite a lot of evidence that water fluoridation is bad for health, particularly the brain. (See here). You can see why it would be an attractive scheme for someone who wants a sick, dumbed down, docile and malleable population. As for the specific claim that the Nazis used it, for me there’s not enough evidence either way. It weakens the case against fluoridation when someone makes this claim, because it may not be true.

The truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdd9_nXVL38&NR=1

If the military and police departments advised their members against tap water, I’d be worried. They don’t, so I’m not.

Clayton -

Wouldn’t you (the State) want the military dumbed down and not questioning the actions of the government?

Proof that it makes you docile…

Well, decide its effects, does it inhibit clear thinking or does it cause docility? The two are not the same. If it only dumbs you down, maybe the elites wouldn’t mind if the troops were on it but they wouldn’t want their officers (senior officers, at least) on it. If it makes you docile, of course they wouldn’t want their soldiers on it… the point of making a population docile is to reduce the potential for revolt against your troops (and police) and the best way to make sure you win any such revolt is to have soldiers and cops who are decidedly the opposite of docile.

Given that the centrally-planned water agencies are the ones responsible for the decision to flouridate, odds are it’s a bad idea. But remember that poisoning is all about the dosage. Chlorine is also a deadly chemical but I don’t hear anyone complaining about the chlorination of water. I doubt that such a small dose of flouride as to have no other noticeable side effects could really result in making the population more docile, even if the Nazis or somebody else put it in the water in larger doses to induce docility.

Note that I have heard the military puts Alum in the food served in basic training to control the “urge”, if you know what I mean. I have no idea if this is actually true but it’s what I’ve heard.

Clayton -

Besides all that, I remember reading that the time it was started to be used with public water no scientist proposed it, only politicians did. If I’m correct, at that time some scientist openly were against the use of it. I don’t remember what made them decide to push for fouride in water (votes maybe). I no longer have the page bookmarked that I read it from. I believe it was excerpted from a book written by a scientist.

In the U.S. the AMA proposed it, though it was based on no research and is a non-specific dosage.

“I see what you did there. (Even if you don’t.) Thanks for a valuable insight.”

What did I do? I did not see

Here is an article I found from Google Scholar a few days ago. I used to swallow toothpaste when i was younger. I figured, I swallowed and survived… Same thing with staring at the sun. They said I would go blind if I stared at the sun. I stared, I didn’t go blind.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/epa08/lu-2000.pdf

Basically, there is a connection between flouride intake and IQ. A bad correlation.