This documentary says that government and parties manage the collective interests of capitalists
The government also manages the collective interests of the automobile industry, does that mean that automobile companies cannot exist under stateless capitalism?
No cars for bolsheviks!
Automobile companies don’t exist in a vaccuum. That documentary proves that government, including fascist governments defend the collective interests of capitalists. They want it. Even if they could live without a state, they wouldn’t want it. Furthermore, the hierarchical nature of businesses naturally leads to a hierarchical state. The only anti-statist philosophy is one with participatory, non-hierarchical units (anarcho-syndicalism, anarcho-communism)
The collective interest does not exist. Furthermore, if it did exist, it would not want or need to be managed.
of course they exist; you’re simply in denial of the 8000+ chambers of commerce in this country, and the fact that both democrats and republicans mannage the collective interests of business blocs
No they don’t.
Please understand methodological individualism.
No one here is denying that rent seeking behavior occurs, but it’s a huge non sequitur to say that this ‘refutes stateless capitalism’.
So, is there a purpose for that statement?
Hasty generalizations and non sequiturs abound. I dare you to make your argument without logical fallacies.
I dare you to make an argument without falsely accusing me of fallacies
No. It is up to you to make a non-fallacious argument. I was simply pointing out that you committed fallacies.
No. It is up to you
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No, kiddo–it’s up to you to support your position. We have neither need nor requirement to disprove the unproven.
So please don’t act all hurt when you’re told to back your claims. You’d do well to stop thinking that no one’s ever heard your…“arguments”…either.
I will give you a sentence by sentence breakdown since you obviously failed logic class.
Begging the question: What the hell is a collective interest and how do you find it? Who are the “capitalists”?
Nonsequitur. Assuming nonexistent “:they” and “it”.
Business is not necessarily hiererchical. Nonsequitur following a false premise.
cry baby cry. All you capitalist collectivists are the ones acting hurt. I’ve provided crushing evidence which exposes everything you know as being propaganda. Capitalists LOVE the state, because they want a hierarchical central organization to manage their collective interests. Capitalist organizations are totalitarian wage slavery-run organizations, which capitalists impose through their collective control iof capital and the means of production. By pretending that heirarchical business will not lead to a hierarchical state you’re basically saying: “We can all take a dump in this bucket but the end result will smell wonderful”. That’s insane. Hierarchical businesses lead to a hierarchical state
hahaha, you deny that capitalists form collective organizations. Are you aware there’s 8000 chambers of commerec in the US alone? Are you aware that certain businesses control different parties depending on their structure (more or less protectionist, more or less labor intensive, more or less close to finance etc)? The Investment theory proves it. You live in denial of your oppressive collectivist ideas
and yes, the “work for a boss or else” of wage slavery that you want to impose in the economy is hierarchical and tyrannical
Goodbye, kid.