Who here (who is against making drugs illegal) thinks non-medical drugs are immoral or ‘bad’? And why?
I prefer not to have my sensory perception distorted further than it already is. I try to “see with eyes unclouded”.
I don’t think they are necessarily bad, but as a personal choice I do not partake in drugs. That sh*t can potentially eff up your brain and body. Granted, some folks can handle it and like it, and more power to them.
I dont know about ‘bad’ but I just plain dont understand the appeal to drugs, I like having a clear mind and full cognative functions. I dont even like being ‘drunk,’ although I do genuinely like the taste of whisky, rum, beer and certain kinds of wine. But I always try to stop when I feel the alchoal affecting me…
That said I dont think drugs are inherently ‘bad’ a lot of the alleged problems assoicated with drugs are actually the result of the government driving the market underground.
Exactly. I feel that no one has any say in what other people put into their body, with the exception of whether the person is going to hurt anyone else by doing so. There are so many illegal drugs that I’d rather people take than have soccer moms numbed out with anti-anxiety and anti-depressant pills. And considering that the vast majority of people who die due to heart problems, McDonald’s is worse too, but that’s only considering health problems and not mental function.
Not that legalization of drugs affects how many people do drugs, but if we keep up with this supposed democracy, a drugged-out society is much easier for politicians to take advantage of. Then again, someone who chooses not to read isn’t any smarter than someone who can’t read.
Overuse of drugs is bad. Addiction is bad. Drugs are not bad.
I’m all for people having a drink, or smoking a little pot on the weekends or whenever. Relaxation is a great thing, for the body and the mind. And weed makes many people philosophize, which is much better than “did you see desperate housewives.” Im such an outcast for the simple reason that all I can seem to make conversation on is big ideas, and the latest Nature article.
And as far as surmising on the nature of reality, and how we view it, one could learn a lot from taking a hallucinagen. Nothing will help you come to terms with reality than to have it gone haywire right in front of you.
On that note, I live by a simple code… “eh, to each his own.”
Relaxation is a great thing, for the body and the mind. And weed makes many people philosophize, which is much better than “did you see desperate housewives.”
One can relax, and philosophise without the use of drugs…and without losing your capacity to think.
Meh, I still dont understand the appeal of drugs…but hey theres a lot of things I dont understand…
Have you ever taken a hallucinagen and learned things from the experience? If so, which one? I just ask because I’ve always heard that authors like Huxley, but I’ve never had someone really confirm it through self-experience.
I don’t think drugs are all that bad, but they make it hard to read as fast, so they’re generally a waste of time.
They are bad by the fact that some drugs medically harm you. Inhaling smoke is never safe. Ecstacy can literally fry the pleasure portion of the brain. The risk of addiciton. Risks using needles. Then there is the morality of active vs. passive entertainment.
Remember, you asked if people thought drugs are bad. Not “should break down your door to stop you from using it”.
Remember, you asked if people thought drugs are bad. Not “should break down your door to stop you from using it”.
Yea…I dont get drugs, but oppose any state enforced prohibition.
Pharmaceutical (i.e., government-approved) versions of the worst street drug you can think of are used in hospitals all the time. Non-medical is just slave-speak for “made by a process not approved by the state”. Some of those are dangerous, but mostly because they are poorly regulated due to their illegal status. I don’t believe a thing can be immoral or bad, nor can even its use be characterized categorically as immoral or bad. I think it’s immoral to allow one’s self to be mastered by a substance, but not everyone who uses drugs - even so-called “hard” drugs - uses them so irresponsibly. Nobody can make a factual description of the morality of drugs; only express their personal morals regarding their use, and make recommendations for the best way for others to regard them.
These clunky “brain” devices are inadequate as it is, eh?
If you think marijuana makes (most) people “lose their capacity to think,” you must have never tried it. But, other than that, you’re right. You don’t need it to philosophize, but it helps for people that don’t normally do it.
And as far as hallucinagens go, yes, i’ve come to a deeper understanding on how people create their own realities w my limited use of them. Normally, you think of reality as something objective, but you really find out just how subjective it can be when you take perception into account.
Plus, on mushrooms, I learned that laughing and giggling non-stop for 4 or 5 hours really gives you a good facial and ab workout.
I prefer not to have my sensory perception distorted further than it already is. I try to “see with eyes unclouded”.
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I think it’s rather quite subjective. Anything that’s addictive, but not furthering one’s well being, can be a bad thing. I know a lot of people who play video games (WoW, Halo, Bio-Shock, and all those other countless games I can’t remember), and I believe they are more detrimental to someone than if they smoked and drunk some alcohol once in a while. That goes for anything that doesn’t actually expand one’s knowledge or self. I also believe a lot of fictional literature is garbage based on the contents of the book (are teachers going to be using Twilight as reading material in a couple decades?). If someone indulges in these things I don’t see how it’s going to make them better, but I’m sure someone could question the things I occasionally do and say the same thing.
I have the same view. I am the kind of person that worries about epistemological problems, so I don’t want any more disconnect between me and the world than there already is. I don’t really understand the appeal of drugs that make you dumber, slower, or weaker. Why isn’t there more interest in drugs that make you smarter, faster, or stronger (like nootropics, and steroids)?
Obviously, drug use (any kind of drug) isn’t a tort and so, should be legal.
I think it’s rather quite subjective. Anything that’s addictive, but not furthering one’s well being, can be a bad thing. I know a lot of people who play video games (WoW, Halo, Bio-Shock, and all those other countless games I can’t remember), and I believe they are more detrimental to someone than if they smoked and drunk some alcohol once in a while. That goes for anything that doesn’t actually expand one’s knowledge or self. I also believe a lot of fictional literature is garbage based on the contents of the book (are teachers going to be using Twilight as reading material in a couple decades?). If someone indulges in these things I don’t see how it’s going to make them better, but I’m sure someone could question the things I occasionally do and say the same thing.
At the very least the games do not make you worse off (anymore than otherwise sitting on a screen for hours would, but there’s nothing inhering in the activity that’s detrimental to you.) I could go on how various games in differing ways develop personal mental qualities, nor do I think most things worth doing would expand knowledge of yourself anyway… What they will not do is actually degrade your mind, unless I guess you stop eating, don’t exercise and become zombified before the screen through sleep deprivation.
I can’t wait to see the kind of stuff that pharma companies would come up with in terms of recreational drugs without the FDA.
Not all drug use destroys your capacity to think. Some of it, depending on use, can help it. All to his own.