Ethical Subjectivism and NAP

No, I’m just not a complete idiot who thinks it’s a given that everyone agrees with me on what the definition of freedom is.

For me, it involves volunataryism & non-coercion; this already makes me a possible dissent who should be killed at some point whenever it is politically acceptable to do so, probably during or on the stage setting for another military skirmish and/or war. See you in the gated work camps, comrades!

For many others (statists) they think of hanging chads, men in suits, a piece of paper written by men in whigs, & the political spectacle of drama that occurs on a daily basis while the military industrial complex continues to raep, & somehow rationalizing all of the nonsense that comes with.

Ok so you assert that there is an objective code of conduct that humans should follow [ namely the NAP ]?

Goodness, no. Don’t be perverted.

Oh you mean The Food and Drug Administration. We have top men working on that, currently.

Libertarianism is the greatest passion of my life. For you to imply that I am not a libertarian is deeply offensive.

Who said anything about you having the ability to punch me in the face. I’m merely greeting you.

yeah statists are heartless upon reflection

You weren’t here.

I’m walking into a family guy quote but

Who?

wilderness has completely mischaracterized my position, as usual. I deny objective “oughts”. I believe in subjective “oughts”.

Top. Men.

and you mischaracterize mine, but what else is new?

Pizza anyone?

Ah I see you found the warehouse where the government keeps all of our gold. And the used hearts of Dick Cheney. It’s mostly Cheney in there.

Again, subjective oughts are meaningless truisms. Every person does what she thinks she ought to do.

good for you. but you believe a paradox. you believe people ought not to murder. so john ought not murder. but also john has subjective morality that is no less valid than your own. if johns morality is to murder those he dislikes.

is john right or wrong to murder? if i ask you. wrong. if i ask him right. we dont have an ethical theory here, we have ‘ask questions of people about their current subjective preferences and see what they report which is neither right nor wrong but just what they report’ . where is the morality?

I highly suspect LS is throwing up his hands at the complete disrespect of you and wilderness trying to say he’s not a libertarian.

Think about it LM. Would a man who is probably more active in the libertarian movement than anyone else here really not consider himself a libertarian?

Just go with it. The mob giveth and the mob taketh away. Long live the mob.

Now this guy said in a way: “Hey that’s wrong. Stop it.”

How dare you.

[:^)] I didn’t even say he wasn’t a libertarian. But then again - L.S. himself did. But go on blame LM and me for all the world’s woes. It’s only us, yes, I understand.

Really LM? I knew wilderness had become unhinged and tossed all civility aside, but I expected more from you.