Is Civilization Evil?

Some people gather wild animals.

Human beings are not designed to eat meat.

What a scientific ultilitarian you are ! Do you wish to show me an optimal graph of human diet as well?

Maybe you can even use awesome mathematics while doing it too..

Except that, you know, we started eating meat long before the “homo” genus ever arrived on the world scene

Except that, you know, we started eating meat long before the “homo” genus ever arrived on the world scene

Did you?

Touche

Plants → Not alive.

You heard it here first, folks.

Seriously though, I’m guessing you meant you don’t exercise force against anything that’s alive and has a certain level of cognitive ability?

This is the most entertaining thread I’ve ever read. I’ve also never encountered such a willfully ignorant person.

Since he avoided the question I’ll post again. You don’t think food can become scarce in more than one place at the same time? What if two (or more) rival tribes end up in the same territory after food? What if for the sake of argument groups of herbivore tribes find themselves in a food shortage in a given territory, how would they sustain themselves without agriculture?

If some hipster ‘hates’ civilization I say should be dropped in the backwoods for a month without a cell phone or other fancy devices to complicate their lives. :slight_smile:

14 Signs that the collapse of civilization has already begun

Keep laughing at me for being an anti-civ survivalist anarcho-capitalist. If you had any brains you’d be one too.

If the world is going to hell and a handbasket, why the hell do I want to be around.

Moreover why would I want to be around if all life was was sitting in the forest fighting bears and eating berries, hating any form of sendetary association with other humans?

I dont get you people.

That’s really innaccurate, or at least overly general.

The hunter gatherer societies we know today have tons of free time.

If the world is going to hell and a handbasket, why the hell do I want to be around.

Moreover why would I want to be around if all life was was sitting in the forest fighting bears and eating berries, hating any form of sendetary association with other humans?

I dont get you people.

That’s why you get a head start: learn survival skills and homestead a large amount of land to hunt/gather/permaculture on.

Why not just move to a tribal area in various parts of the world where they already do all that instead of waiting for this at home? You’d certainly get the best training for it that way instead of relying on just naturalnews.com. I have trouble picturing exactly how you envision a “civlization collapse” anyway. Is it some sort of mass human exctinction event and its sort of like Mad Max? Is it a US government collapse where I’d imagine its powerful military remnants wouldn’t really let you do whatever you want as you imagine. Or is it simply a place where truck shipments from farms to cities has been halted? Any details of this future is fun to imagine so I’d love to hear your take.

+1 auctionguy

I’m pretty sure it will be a nuclear holocaust where all the survivors have stayed alive by living in vaults and where F4M’s father leaves the vault one day and F4M gets his very own Pip-Boy 3000 and then leaves the vault to find his father.

That’s why you get a head start: learn survival skills and homestead a large amount of land to hunt/gather/permaculture on.

  1. Once again, your not reading anything I type.

I am saying for most of us, it’s simply not worth it. The lifestyle you talk about is too crappy to care all that much. We would rather die.

If your lifestyle is so miserable all you want to do is live the longest to get one rather odd after the fact “I told you so”, knock yourself out - but I think that’s a little stupid and petty. There are other things worth caring about than some shit future that I want no part of.

  1. And “about the Iliad” isn’t really a summary of anything - it’s a one sentece guess at the subject. Which once again doesn’t help me in thinking you are bothering to comprehend anything any one is trying to say to you. Right now all you seem to do is have a little soap box you wish to stand on and repeat variations off the same handful of sloagns

You have no interest in what anyone has to say, yet you are in a discussion forum - which means it is impossible for you to function with any usefulness in the context of this forum

That’s why you get a head start: learn survival skills and homestead a large amount of land to hunt/gather/permaculture on.

Why not just move to a tribal area in various parts of the world where they already do all that instead of waiting for this at home? You’d certainly get the best training for it that way instead of relying on just naturalnews.com. I have trouble picturing exactly how you envision a “civlization collapse” anyway. Is it some sort of mass human exctinction event and its sort of like Mad Max? Is it a US government collapse where I’d imagine its powerful military remnants wouldn’t really let you do whatever you want as you imagine. Or is it simply a place where truck shipments from farms to cities has been halted? Any details of this future is fun to imagine so I’d love to hear your take.

Who wants a tribe? A tribe is essentially a state just under a different form.

Civilization will collapse whether we like it or not, and thanks to the state (tragedy of the commons, propping up monopolies, outlawing sustainable living/food) it’s going to come a lot quicker then we imagined. Resources are drying up. Industrial ag is killing soil so soon enough all domesticated food will dry up. Poisonous chems in food and water like fluoride and vaccines are causing massive amounts of mental disorders like autism and other health problems. How can you DENY that civ is collapsing?

I’m pretty sure it will be a nuclear holocaust where all the survivors have stayed alive by living in vaults and where F4M’s father leaves the vault one day and F4M gets his very own Pip-Boy 3000 and then leaves the vault to find his father.

lol very funny. Too bad ur still in denial.

What am I in denial of?

Let’s just say for argument’s sake that I thought that civilization was going to collapse.

Why would I want to go live in the woods? I hate the outdoors.