Is our best bet, at this point, to dissolve the federal government or have as many states as possible secede?

Regardless of who gets control, republicans or democrats, one thing seems to remain the same: unconstitutional law, executive order after another unconstitutional law, executive order.

At this point, instead of debating these unconstituional laws, and trying to fight the federalization that seems to be happening in local infrasturcure and local police departments, etc, would it just be better to have your state secede?

Is your state more powerful than the Federal Government?

Under the constitution, it shouldn’t need to be, correct?

Did not the states create the federal government? Can they not opt out and or even dissolve it?

Ha! What’s the constitution going to do about it?

Well, there either is a New World Order, who would be exposed in trying to stop the states from seceding, or there isn’t and true liberty would be exposed.

I think I’m ready to go ahead and find out one way or another.

Are you the governor of a state?

I only wish I was.

You’ll need to make that a reality before you can contemplate secession.

I’ll give you a clue, it’s far easier to seceede economically than it is to do so politically.

No, but states are just as powerful as the Federal Government. It is called Nuclear weapons.

How many nuclear weapons do you have?

Hahaha!!! This was funny…

The War of Secession, aka The Civil War, aka The War of Northern Aggression, almost 150 years ago in the USA, showed just how well that works.

The Federal gov’t, relative to State gov’ts, was considerably less powerful than it is today.

According to the Constitution, this should not have happened - but if they’d always followed that document, the world would be a much different place than it is now.

The pen is, perhaps, mightier than the sword - but even a Mont Blanc Cervantes won’t be much help if you’re being mugged.

Danno, who prefers Mars-Stadtler, anyhow.

I am not sure. We may not have any for all I know. But I am sure there are nuclear weapons stored in places on U.S. soil, and those states that have them could appropriate them if they wanted to secede. The question is what would it take to get them to work?

Not if the state has nuclear weapons that it can use.

Is the Federal Government’s nuclear arsenal so poorly guarded that one can just walk up to nuclear weapons and appropriate them?

This is worse than the collapse of the USSR!

No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority, by Lysander Spooner.

From a purely technical viewpoint. If a state did secede and used its National Guard to seize nuclear weapons silos from the Federal Government. The weapons and missiles would be useless to them. The detonation codes are embedded into the triggering mechanism. It would take years trying to use computers to crack the detonation codes. The only option would be to dismantle the warheads and replace the trigger mechanisms, an action that would take weeks. I don’t think the states in question would have HOURS let alone WEEKS to do this. For all intents and purposes, any nuclear weapons would be useless if captured.

No state, trying to seceed, would be silly enough to use a nuculear weapon even if they could. They would want goodwill and allies, not everyone in the world annoyed with them.

Our actual best bet, at this point, would be to either force the federal government to follow the Constitution to the letter, or capture the leprechaun and get his pot of gold.

Danno, wondering which would be more likely.

That is what I do not know. I wonder what it would take for a state government to appropriate any nuclear arsenal on its land? States are part of the Federal government. The troops that serve the federal government come from states. I am sure the nuclear arsenal is guarded just fine against foreigners, but I am not sure about how it is safe-guarded from governors…