There is a theory that much of Western policy is dictated by a cabal of individuals dominated by the Anglophone elite. According to a report called the Belmont Brotherhood, the John Birch Society is a false opposition group created by the Anglophone elite to neutralize its opposition. Ron Paul is a member of the John Birch Society.
Could it be that Ronald is secretly working for the Anglophone elite and is only pretending to oppose it? This is actually my main sticking point with him, and, besides his age, is why I can’t get behind him 100%.
To what end? He’s way too effective at waking people up to reality, and certainly isn’t offering false solutions like someone like a Bill Still or Paul Grignon. If his purpose is to distract people with “solutions” that only help the elite maintain their position, he’s quite possibly the biggest failure in the history of civilization.
The man’s done more than any other in modern history to rally people to the cause of liberty and engage them to educate themselves…and as Walter Block has said, Paul’s done more for libertarianism than all of his critics, put together…
And your issue is you think he might be a double agent, and the fact that he’s older than ideal. I’m wondering how much you’ve actually thought about this.
After some further research, I have found that Ron isn’t an actual member of the John Birch Society, in the way that Barack Hussein Obama II is not a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Ron supports and gives speeches at the JBS on occasion, and the JBS supports him. So he’s associated with them.
Ron would be working undercover for the Anglophone elite to discredit the opposition to the elite. Notice how Ron denies the 9/11 conspiracies etc. If the eilte can get people galvanized around Ron Paul and then make Ron Paul look like a fool, then the resistance to the New World Order would look foolish. See the strategy?
It’s very important if he’s a double agent. If he is one, then he is no better than the other Republicrat candidates and we shouldn’t support him. What do you think of that?
Plus, his age is an actual issue. We’ve had at least two presidents go senile in office: Dwight David Eisenhower and Ronald Wilson Reagan. FDR might have been senile in his last days. The job of President makes a man age.
Dude, he denies 9/11 because the position is politically untenable. How much do you want from this man? Anti-fed, Anti-war, anti-tax, isn’t that enough? If he’s a stooge for the elites I don’t care, because as JJ said, he’s doing a terrible job of helping them.
Other than a few speaking engagements, can you please explain how exactly Ron Paul “supports” the John Birtch Society?
Other than allowing him to speak at a few events that they may have hosted, can you please explain how the John Birtch Society “supports” Ron Paul?
I don’t see how it’s being effective in the slightest.
I think I need more than “he gave a few speeches at some John Birch Society events, and some report said the John Birch Society is a false opposition group created by the Anglophone elite to neutralize its opposition.”
Do you have something else? Or is this about the extent of it?
Mmmkay. And you’re saying the possibility of that is worse than any other probable alternative?
Ron Paul morally supports the JBS and the JBS campaigns and propagandizes for him. What more do you want? They probably donate to his campaign too. Does that satisfy you? What do you need, his membership card?
Ron Paul peddles the “blowback” theory of adverse Islamic military action. This seems to me to be clearly false. Ron is an intelligent guy. He associates with Alex Jones. How could he not know that 9/11 was an inside job? I think he does know it. Maybe he chooses not to say it because he would go down in flames politically. But perhaps his purpose in the race is to kill the conspiracy theories.
And yes, again, age is an actual issue. Ronald Reagan was effectively controlled by unscrupulous advisors during the bulk of his Presidency. Lets say Ron is legit. As his mental abilities decline, who do you think will step into the vacuum? We need a rhobust, unquestionable candidate.
And what “kinks”? Yeah Schnapps, your post was highly intelligent and provocative. How about a solitary example.
I’m bewildered by you people. “So what if he’s helping to usher in the New World Order? At least he’s a libertarian!” That makes no sense.
So you mean, he quitely agrees with some things they stand for?
I’ve never heard them do that. Can you cite some examples of how and when the organization has done this so far?
Some actual proof would be nice.
You’re asking me if the some guy who just created an account on the Mises forum claiming the John Birch Society “probably” donates to Ron Paul’s campaign satisfies my request for proof that Ron Paul is a member of the John Birch Society?
I thought you said he didn’t have one.
The concept of blowback seems to be false to you?
So I guess that means Alex Jones is an NWO double agent too?
And perhaps Barack Obama’s purpose is to bring peace and prosperity to the world…that doesn’t mean the results he’s producing aren’t the opposite of that.
That’s not what I asked. You basically just restated what you already said. I’ll restate my question for you.
“And you’re saying the possibility of that is worse than any other probable alternative?”
The feeling is mutual. You come in here with:
Some brotherhood says the John Birch Society is a false opposition group created by the Anglophone elite to neutralize its opposition.
Ron Paul is a “member” of the John Birch Society because he gave some speeches at their events and they “probably” donate to his campaign.
Therefore, Ron Paul is probably a double agent for the NWO.
For one thing, I have no idea how you could possibly find that to be even remotely sensible. For another, you’re missing the point of the opposition you’re receiving here, and you are straw manning it with that caricature of a paraphrase you created. The opposition you are getting is:
a) The case you’ve made against Ron Paul so far is basically non-existent. (See 1-3 above)
b) Even supposing your claim is true, Ron Paul has done more to harm any elitists agenda than possibly any other individual in history.
See, I don’t much care about intentions. What matters more to me are results. I’ll let this guy explain the concept for you:
Gee. A non-response of the classic “you’re wrong. I win.” variety. You should see my big surprised face.
I would love to hear an explanation of your accusations (particularly the double standard one), given how your entire suspicion is based upon the say-so of a brotherhood that for all you know could be part of the very same elite you’re suspicious of. That, and the fact that you assess Ron Paul is guilty by association, yet admit he is just as associated (if not more so) with Alex Jones as he is with John Birch Society…and you apparently don’t think Alex Jones is some kind of “false opposition agent created by the Anglophone elite to neutralize its opposition.”
So by all means, explain away.
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Yeah, I actually got a mental picture of Egon as a short ginger lady with tiny spectacles and an English accent.
