Is This Principled Libertarianism (Walter Block on Child Abuse)?

[liberty_student]

@Autolykos

@liberty student

You did, but you didn’t intend it. I really don’t want to belabor this point, but intent and action are not the same thing. It was an appeal to emotion. It’s known as a lifeboat argument.

My understanding of the word “appeal” is that it implies a conscious effort on the part of the one making it. Since I didn’t have a goal of pulling on your heartstrings (as it were), I don’t see how I made any appeal to emotion. It seems that you’re trying to argue that your reaction to, or interpretation of, what I wrote takes precedence over my intention behind it. On the other hand, I’m glad that you (apparently) understand that it was also not a false dilemma.

An appeal to emotion is a type of logical fallacy. Your intent (which I can never prove one way or another) is irrelevant. What you did was appeal to emotion, intentionally or not.

@Autolykos

I’d assume that the person being stabbed didn’t want to be stabbed, as I know that I wouldn’t want to be stabbed.

We don’t need the NAP then. We can just do whatever you would like to have happen.

@Autolykos

It seems as though you refuse to make any “default” assumptions regarding other people. Maybe it’s just me, but this seems contrary to human nature.

How so? Are humans supposed to assume things as part of their nature?

@Autolykos

@liberty student

It wasn’t unwittingly. If you don’t know you’re representing a party in the right, and you don’t have their consent, then what exactly are you doing getting involved? Oh sure, you can pay your way out. Can you imagine a society where people stole and then made restitution later? Where people threw punches and then paid off the people they punched later?

Yes, actually I can.

So you think that’s what ancap will look like? People violating each other’s rights up to their capacity to pay to do so?

@Autolykos

What exactly am I doing getting involved? I’m betting that the person being stabbed is a victim. If it turns out that I’m wrong, so be it – I’ll gladly pay for any damages.

Moral behavior is something you gamble on. Perfect. NAP by chance.

@Autolykos

And I hope you weren’t implying that my time is somehow not precious to me.

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https://forum.freecapitalists.org/t/some-choice-quotes-from-anarcho-capitalists-from-the-mises-forum/15616/137

@Autolykos

What I don’t understand is why you are so resistant to my request.

I’m not resistant, I’m just not interested in feeding you long form explanations when a simple sentence is sufficient.

@Autolykos

Can you articulate what you mean by the statement “the only way a moral society works” or not? The reason I ask is because it seems like a rather emotionally loaded phrase with multiple (if not many) possible meanings.

It’s not emotionally loaded. Substitute NAP. Read it again. Then question what you believe is wrong. I’m not going to explain a very simple statement, that should be obvious to understand, if not easy for a libertarian to agree with.