In some circumstances, I do. If it’s a choice between watch people starve and take money from Bill Gates, I’ll do the second.
Your subjective values, your choice. Austrian Econ only teaches you that you’d get more bellies filled by following the ethics of leaving Bill Gates alone or asking him to help feed the hungry voluntarily (as he seems to be already doing without the threat from your gun).
The morals most of us share (don’t rape, don’t steal, don’t kill, help a fellow human in need) are endowed to us by our ancestors as a result of human and social evolution. Societies following unproductive norms smothered themselves into evolutionary oblivion either by literally killing each other or spending too much time and energy on inefficient conflict resolutions and not enough on peaceful division of labor and production. The wisdom of your genes is whispering to your subconscious that voluntary cooperation with a fellow human would yield you more of what you want than killing him and taking it away from him by force. You catch more flies with honey.
The political parasites from the 2nd realm have a vested interest in perpetuating the Hobessian myth that your fellow human being is your enemy – that if it weren’t for their oh-so-neccessary protection racket, your fellow neighbor is going to sneak up on you at night and slit your throat without blinking. You find the parasites existence – your deal with the 2nd-realm devil – necessary purely because of this fear. Grow some balls. Don’t give into it.
That’s the theory. (It’s actually your theory, since I don’t think Mises ever concluded anything like that, but moving on.)
We can test it empirically, if you want.
Not the trolling example, but the thesis, “can welfare and foreign aid reduce poverty?”
And don’t start arguing with me whether or not the government should make some wierd tax exemption for the fraction of Bill Gates’ non donated income that goes to foreign aid and welfare. Above and beyond his foundation already being tax deductible.
How about this empirical test: What % of your daily human interactions would you say are from the 1st realm vs the 2nd? Why?
99% second realm, since the government is constantly holding guns to my head and I just don’t see them.
The other 1% is posting on Mises.
Alright, done with this round. Maybe we’ll start another one next time. As always, pleasure chatting.
If I were to answer the question literally, all of my personal interactions on a given day in this statist Obammunismuslimerrorismgrandmakiller society are voluntary. Including voting.
Take care, Z.
Oh, and not to get all new age spiritual on you, but precivilized societies didn’t really have much in the way of private land ownership.
I understand. The concept of property evolved (and persists) to enable division of labor => less time spent hunting/gathering, more bellies full.
I ain’t no communist, if that’s what you’re saying. There’s a middle ground there. It’s boring as hell at times, but it gets bellies obese.
Yes. Do you think you accomplished what you set out to accomplish?
No, but I did spread my heresy to Bloom.
Orks: 0
Chaos Space Marines: 1
How do you figure? I don’t think you did even that.
And what did you set out to accomplish here anyway?
Whatever forum I post on nowadays, I have a primary and secondary objective. The primary objective is to make more people disagree with each other. The secondary objective is to add ban screens to my scrapbook. Getting more Reddit hits is tertiary.
Glad to see that you’re really outing yourself as a complete troll now. Too bad it didn’t work so well here.
What kind of Reddit hits are you talking about?
The ones that I’ll show you if you can get the first post on Page 9.
You mistake me for someone who cares about playing your little games.
The forum won’t parse .gov sites, but it’ll parse links to Fox. Check it out some time, Auto. Great news source.
I’m not sure there is a rule against trolling per se here. So, you can go on as long as fish swim your way. Your honesty is appreciated, however latent and however unsurprising the case may be.