I just found out yesterday that my wife is pregnant with our first child. I was raised by Reaganite Republican parents who are great people, and great parents, but who, like most people, seemed unconcerned about the danger and exploitiveness of the state. As a result, I was not motivated to deeply explore these issues until I was in my 20’s and could finally easily see the state’s actions myself for what they are.
I certainly don’t want to brainwash my child with a freedom ideology, but I also want him/her to be more skeptical about the political/economic status quo than I was. I am confident that if I had been made aware of the shortcomings of statism earlier on, I would have also discovered AE and libertarianism much earlier.
So, I guess my questions are: are there any good resources dealing with early childhood development and activities to maximize the curiosity of developing brains? At what age will children be capable of understanding political/ethical/philosophical issues? (I realize many people NEVER do) And if I do have a precocious, curious child, should I attempt to steer him/her towards libertarianism, or should I be more hands-off and trust that I have taught him/her to be intellectually honest enough to arrive at the same conclusion him/herself?
“I certainly don’t want to brainwash my child with a freedom ideology,” Huh? Because there is something wrong with the truth? I fully intend to “brainwash” my child with freedom ideology. I wish my parent had done so to me.
My boy will be twelve this year. I can’t say I’ve been super-dad, or anything close, but I’ve found a great deal of riches in raising him, and sharing with him. I can’t recommend any books. I would like to tell that when times ,as they will, get stressed and stressing, enjoy what you got.. Try to make all the time you can for your children, and they will reciprocate, recognized or not.
I gotta say I messed up, I went for an overly liberal rearing. Believe it or not he follows rules better than I do. I went for the pure anti-authoritarian approach. He has so much trouble minding folks if he thinks he is in the right. He has been kicked from school for defending smaller kids, and himself. The libertarian approach, is anti-public schools. I home-schooled for a couple of years. Pretty challenging; working, and schooling. Now I can go to school because I’m sending him to prison(public schools).
Thanks for the links! And Conza I’ve actually been sifting through stefbot’s archive this morning and found a lot of great stuff right after his daughter was born.
“Huh? Because there is something wrong with the truth? I fully intend to “brainwash” my child with freedom ideology. I wish my parent had done so to me.”
I see what you are saying. I guess I just feel personally that I felt the impact of the logic of freedom far more sharply (like a ton of bricks) since I had to come to terms with it myself (beginning with Schiff/Rodgers/Faber, then with help from posters on this forum, and of course Mises/Rothbard). I am just worried that I’d come off as preachy and leave the child with a more superficial understanding of libertarianism than if he/she is allowed to organically think through all the issues and implications before I supply my opinion as if I’m some sort of authority.
My boy will be twelve this year. I can’t say I’ve been super-dad, or anything close, but I’ve found a great deal of riches in raising him, and sharing with him. I can’t recommend any books. I would like to tell that when times ,as they will, get stressed and stressing, enjoy what you got.. Try to make all the time you can for your children, and they will reciprocate, recognized or not.
I gotta say I messed up, I went for an overly liberal rearing. Believe it or not he follows rules better than I do. I went for the pure anti-authoritarian approach. He has so much trouble minding folks if he thinks he is in the right. He has been kicked from school for defending smaller kids, and himself. The libertarian approach, is anti-public schools. I home-schooled for a couple of years. Pretty challenging; working, and schooling. Now I can go to school because I’m sending him to prison(public schools).
So; good luck."
Thank you! I really do hope that I will be able to be in a position to homeschool. I was smart but spacy and riddled with Asperger’s growing up going to public schools, and the thing I remember most is feeling bored and stagnant. Even if my kid is able to adjust better than I did, I worry that public schools will still just amount to a huge waste of developmentally vauable time.
I was raised by a neoconservative mother and a social democrat father who liked Reagan. I understand how parental politics can shape your worldview. These two ideologies gave me deep seated skepticism in the actions of all things government and corporate, which eventually converted me to democratic socialism and then (to the ideological rather than etymological conclusion) into a bland, somewhat inconsistent libertarianism. My father constantly steered me towards a statist approach to handling threats to economic self-interests. I can say that in some ways he convinced me at the time that statism was the only path. He is very pro-Keynesian for its philosophical musings. Alas, he is a good person and means well. As I did throughout my socialist phase. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, as they would say, and discovering ethics and the beauty of utilitarianism and consequentialism is what led me out of socialism.
So I would suggest being hands-off about politics, but don’t be afraid to challenge your child’s worldview when they reproduce something that is logically or ethically flawed in some way or form.
“I am just worried that I’d come off as preachy and leave the child with a more superficial understanding of libertarianism than if he/she is allowed to organically think through all the issues and implications before I supply my opinion as if I’m some sort of authority.”
I think I understand more where you are coming from. It is defnitely important to have the respect of your child.
I say just talk with him, when he’s ready, and express your idea. He will become interested. No need for you to prescribe anything. But that’s just me.
Mises Pieces, in the interest of being very, very careful of who you expose your children to, I recommend checking out this site. It offers a very critical, but measured, perspective on Molyneux and his operation.
Thanks for the link, Grayson. It does seem like Molyneux himself had some very unhappy experiences with his own parents, and this tends to weigh disproportionately heavily in his analysis. I’m certainly not taking his words as gospel, but I do think he offers some great, thought-provoking, sometimes-contrarian (but consistent) opinions and his passionate, articulate style makes him easy to listen to.
Also, I understand that I am listening to his opinion not as a developmental psychology expert, but rather as a guy who knows a ton about philosophy and with whom I’m sharing a common experience.
My own opinion, based somewhat on my own upbringing, is not to engage in any political/philosophical discussion until the child is about twelve or so. Children ought to be allowed to ‘be children’ and do their own thing for a while before you start putting them through ‘Freedom Indoctrination Class’. They’ll discover or absorb values over time whatever you do and if you are too persistent – force feeding them Human Action or Man, Economy and State (for example) – the child is likely to resent the ideas presented and defy you as a teenager.
In short, let the child experience some modicum of carefree innocence before bludgeoning them into ‘New Randian Man’, or whatever this libertarian ubermensch is called.
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/health/positive-parenting.htm I found the last article labeled as Anarchy Parenting very helpful…it doesn’t really discuss bringing up politics with your child, but rather Libertarian child-rearing in general.
"My own opinion, based somewhat on my own upbringing, is not to engage in any political/philosophical discussion until the child is about twelve or so. Children ought to be allowed to ‘be children’ and do their own thing for a while before you start putting them through ‘Freedom Indoctrination Class’. They’ll discover or absorb values over time whatever you do and if you are too persistent – force feeding them Human Action or Man, Economy and State (for example) – the child is likely to resent the ideas presented and defy you as a teenager.
In short, let the child experience some modicum of carefree innocence before bludgeoning them into ‘New Randian Man’, or whatever this libertarian ubermensch is called. ;)"
This sounds like good advise to me. I do intend to talk about the ideas of freedom before that age, but I highly doubt I would have my child read anything heavy about it before age 12, unless she really wanted to.
Great question.I’ve thought about this a lot even though I don’t plain to be a dad for quite a while.
It’s difficult because as a libertarian knowing what it’s like to group up in a statist world you want the child to be libertarian or at least know about it.I think you have to walk a fine line between preaching to them and letting them discover for themself.As Andrew said, preach too much and you put them off or you might inspire them in your consistency and they might think wow I want to be like you.It’s hard to guess.It depends on personality.They might be just a kid who likes shopping,fashion and tv.Obviously you hope not but it could be.
I think my plan’s going to be to leave libertarian stuff lying around and just encourage my kid to explore ideas and thinking when and if their reading.I’m going to try to instill in them that’s it’s good to read ,learn and think.Hopefully if that works they might read books I have lying around or just discuss philosophy/politics etc with me.
On the what age do they understand philosophy etc, I’d say pretty early.I mean once they start talking their asking “what’s that”, “how does that work” etc.You know the stage where you get bombarded with questions.Also according to child language aquisition theory, children’s cognitive development is ahead of their linguistic development so by the time they can talk they can at least try to understand some things.
Empirically,I remember reading that philosophy was being tried out on kids at a school and that they responded really well to it.
The homeschooling thing is an issue for me.My Fiance says she shouldn’t homeschool our kid but I’d really like to.I’d be willing to do it all myself.
about inspiring young children to read, it is suggested that you read to them at least twenty minutes a day. They will develop a love of books and knowledge by doing this.
Paul says he didn’t force his views on his five children. “My wife and I raised our kids pretty laissez-faire,” he says (fitting for a libertarian), “teaching self-reliance and responsibility and the work ethic.”
