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Um. Congratulations?

Operation Hot Mic

http://www.youtube.com/v=-Czo5Vf8KZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T8r33VHT46c:640:385:

Some context might be in order…

Cops Vs. Cameras: The Killing of Kelly Thomas & The Power of New Media

How a Local Blog Broke the Kelly Thomas Story: A conversation with Friends for Fullerton’s Future

RT News is already on the new footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn8CE5ISUSw

Court says public has right to video police in public places

Federal court strikes blow to Illinois eavesdropping law, will allow recordings of police

Growing Number of Prosecutions for Videotaping the Police

I think the courts need to make it clear that “stop recording” is never a lawful order and a threat of arrest in retaliation for recording is always police misconduct, at the very least.

Clayton -

Um. Congratulations?

Uh, yeah. Celebrated with a 40 of Steel Reserve.

I would be interested to see that question presented to the Supreme Court. Do police officers have a “reasonable expectation of privacy” while on duty?

If it was found that police officers did not in fact have a reasonable expectation of privacy while on duty then they wouldn’t really have grounds to order people to stop recording them.

They also wouldn’t have grounds to argue that the evidence be thrown out in court.

EDIT: Yeah, I didn’t word that very well. They would still be able to tell you to put down the camera and arrest you if you resisted but it won’t have actually been a crime to record the officer. Moreover, the video could be submitted as evidence against the officer in question.

Actually, police have broad powers under the doctrine of ‘lawful order’ to tell you to do basically anything.

http://www.copblock.org/4749/law-enforcement-officers-and-lawful-orders-by-mr-ogre/

Why in the hell would a public officer in a public place have a reasonable expectation of privacy? Not even private citizens have that.

I dunno, I’d be interested to see the argument.

Ah, trying to apply logic to the state, the master of all things double-standard.

On the subject of cops and lawful order:

Arrested Development: The Criminalization of America’s Schoolchildren

@gotlucky - Logic and government:

A film everyone should see: The War on Kids

Wow my school wasn’t anywhere near that strict but that was years ago.

My private schools were actually much stricter they both had zero tolerance policies on fighting.

How a libertarian became a Pennsylvania State Police informant

East Germany’s Transformation:

Huh, interesting. She was the founder of Drexel’s Students for Sensible Drug Policy, and apparently ended up turning in a bunch of other activists. I’ve seen her at the End the Fed rallies here in Philly. I believe she was an Agorist, although I might be wrong about that.

Huh, interesting. She was the founder of Drexel’s Students for Sensible Drug Policy, and apparently ended up turning in a bunch of other activists. I’ve seen her at the End the Fed rallies here in Philly. I believe she was an Agorist, although I might be wrong about that.

I don’t know her. I only read Donnelly’s blog. Her story should be a warning to agorists and others in the liberty movement to be careful about who your around. You never know who’s an informant.