Must See Movies

The tv is forcing me to mistype words. I blame government subliminal messaging for such things. Anyways I would consider the elves complete isolationists, not simply non-interventionists.

It’s not the TV, it’s staying up all night arguing with closeted Marxist-Communists [:P]

What the heck to the elves care about anyways? They’re immortal…

They truly are more interesting then tv.

I wonder if the law of comparative advantage applies to them.

True, it’s a lot more fun than watching a bunch of talking heads bouncing their inane babble around the echo-chamber.

I think the only incentive for elves is to figure out a way to commit suicide…

If elves could never die because they are immortal then they would theoretically need only one individual to defeat all of Sauron’s army.

That’s why they needed so many orcs. To sit on all the elves [:P]

i agree with this slant.

But…it also was about people following the herd with their eyes clued to the propaganda on the TV’s. the passengers never got up off their mobile seats with the TV always in their face. whatever they wanted was instantly served to them. even the time of day was propaganda on the ship. it could be changed from afternoon to morning and nobody was shocked. even the ships captain was always sitting or laying. nobody could walk anymore and when they did it become a huge feat (part of the climatic ending). i remember when one person’s TV accidently got pushed out of the sitting person’s face and the person acted as if they never realized their was this whole other world around them (cause they didn’t realize as their whole world was being funneled to them from the TV). they didn’t realize what had become of them and slowly woke up.

These seem pretty good. Albeit ideally I would keep a general category too. (And Im not sure what you mean by *Best Anti-State*, but Im sure that you do.)

I would also add a Non-English Language category. Because for example if you have 10 movies in the Antiwar category and 9 of them are in English, it seems as if you are really saying that 9 best atiwar movies are in English which is a little bit silly. I think it is less pressumptious to have them segragated.

And I would also add an “Anti-Occupation” category. This would be movies like Red Dawn and The Wind That Shakes The Barley. I think styling them such is more accurate than styling them antiwar, because they are pro-armed struggle.

Sorry, this wasn’t on the first page of this post and I believe it’s a good addition: There Will Be Blood (2007)

Mafia Movies by Murray Rothbard

Having just read this, Good Fellas… it will be removed from the list.

On the God Father by Craig Russell

Well it’s good that someone has seen so many. First I think the movies should be narrowed down to content and message, then the form / style can be evaluated.

Got a link handy? Don’t want to get the wrong one.

Good points about Goodfellas… same with scarface.

Just wondering about Robocop, Law Abiding Citizen, The Devil’s Own, Michael Collins, and Taken.. also Beserk. Anymore info? Thanks.

Also just adding possibly…

Additional Movie Gift Ideas for ChristmasPosted by Ryan W. McMaken on December 15, 2009 10:21 PM

In response to my post on Avatar and Thunderheart:

MS writes:

Winnetou from Karl May (German author), it is basically a Western. The White Men want to built a train track through Indian land and so a cowboy (Old Shatterhand) meets with the Indians and discovers the injustice done to them. He then joins the Indians and fights against the Industrial interest of the White Men. So, this is basically the same plot as in Avatar. Though, I think nobody out of Germany knows either Karl May or Winnetou. It is kind of a German tradition, because they do Winnetou performances at Bad Segeberg until today =)

And writes DJ about Real Genius:

In this movie he [Kilmer] plays the ingenious leader of a group of physics doctoral candidates who are working on cutting edge laser technology. What they don’t realize at first is that the direction of their research is being guided surreptitiously by the federal government, with the intention of using their mechanism as a means of vaporizing political enemies from near space. Once they discover this, they work just as brilliantly at embarrassing the villains, which includes both the government thugs and the professor who did their bidding (for the right amount of cash).

I wouldn`t include The Devil’s Own. It is not very good as a movie and it ultimately cedes the policeman the high ground over the rebell.

Michael Collins is decent I suppose, albeit too much of it is set up to clear the Free Staters. The Wind That Shakes The Barley is better. As a movie and also more realistic and more radical.

Anti-Occupation Movies I would include would be:
The Wind That Shakes The Barley
Ride With The Devil
Red Dawn
Michael Collins
Braveheart

The movies of this category I would not include are The Patriot and Defiance, mainly for sucking big time.

Strange that I can think of so few anti-occupation/guerrila movies that are in English though. Different type of history I suppose.

Strange, I thought everyone knew Karl May?? Anyway, there were a bunch of Red Westerns of this type. The Sons of the Great Bear (based on some great novels) was I think the most famous one.

Ok, these are the categories so far… I went through the alphabetical list and sorted them through. Suggestions / recommendations welcome. If something doesn’t belong, or doesn’t make sense.. speak up. All of these have been recommend by folks at Mises.org, Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul forums. I will link to the reviews where possible.

Many have several elements within them and I tried to add them to the most predominant category.

Anti-Slavery / Self Ownership

Anti-State / Anti-Status Quo

Antiwar

Anti-Welfare

  • Once Were Warriors (1995)
  • Hate (1995)

Business / Entrepreneur

Childrens / Cartoons / Anime

Conspiracy / Corruption

Dystopia’s

Gangster

Immigration / Martial Law

Individualist / Anti-Collectivist / Anti Conformist

Libertarian / Justice / Injustice

Libertarian Westerns *

Mass Media / Free Speech / Freedom of Expression

Racism

Revolution / Anti-Occupation

Satire / Comedy

Sci-Fi

Terrorism / Foreign Policy / Empire

TV Series

Removed from List:

Unsure where to classify or leave on:

Conza, why were Citizen Kane and Fight Club removed? Just curious.

Seemed to me that Fight Club was the antithesis of libertarian anarchism. I saw the other night, and they seem to equate anarchy with lack of rule of law, while they also condoned damage to private property (by attacking corporations and whatnot). It didn’t seem anti-government, as much as it seemed anti-corporatist.

I also question The Dark Night. The one anarchist character represented lack of rule of law and chaos, while the movie as a whole seems to support the idea of the State manipulating the law to remove anarchy, which is equated with chaos.

I can’t believe two classic crooked cop movies weren’t included

Training Day

Changeling

Il Divo is a great look at corrupt Italian politics 1970s to early 90s.

North and South - The BBC version of the English novel - is a good look at conflicting thoughts about the Industrial Revolution.

The beginning of Iron Man 2 trailer, when Tony Stark is testifying in the Congress. He says:

“You want my property? You cant’ have it. But I did you a big favor. I successfully privatized world peace.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siQgD9qOhRs

I dont think movies should agree with us 100%. Just being food for thought while being a good movie should qualify.

I don’t see it in the list, so I suggest adding The Battle of Algiers. I saw it two years ago and I fell in love with it. I heard that when 9/11 occured, the film was sent to all major government agencies related to counterterrorism and they were told to watch it. It has to do with the French occupation of Algeria, and shows how conventional military tactics cannot defeat an insurgency.

That reminds me: Queimada, also by Pontercorvo (btw, a socialist), is also pretty good. It is about imperialism, colonialism, slavery, and how the politically-connected merchants used the state to expand into markets. I saw this in my critical thinking class, and obviously, I interpreted differently from the rest of the class.