I thought Surf’s Up was their best ever. Deep stuff.
EDIT
And isn’t Pet Sounds considered to be one of their best ever? lol.
Not a Nader fan, but I like seeing the left hit Obama for being a war crim.
Nader: War Criminal Obama Worse Than Bush
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Talking shit to roseanne barr’s long time boyfriend on twitter. He’s a socialist.
I just searched for socialism and replied to a couple socialists and he just so happened to pop up and i unknowly replied without knowing who he was.
Below is the discussion thus far (what did i miss? what would you of done better?)
Johnny ‘the socialist’: Think Socialism’s a dirty word? OK, call it Economic democracy. Check out this American hero. (he links a story about a grocery store owner that gave his business away to all his employees when he retired. He gave shares basically based on time with company)
me: how is that socialism? That was a private individual making his own decision with his property. 1 of many fine capitalists
johnny: His gift converted his business to 1 where the means of production’s owned by the workers. That’s the definition of socialism.
me: umm no. An individual owner made a decision of his own private property to give it to his employees. Capitalism defined. socialism would require it to be owned by everyone not 400 ppl. This is no different than stock holders.
johnny: Yes, the capitalist gave his business to the workers who now share the business. A capitalist enterprise became a socialist 1.
johnny: Stockholders aren’t workers. They’re investors. GHW Bush made the distinction, clearly.
me: he gave more to ppl that worked there longer. not equal ownership. All he did was pass his business on to the largest holder
me: ya so there r 400 new investors that work there too. With unequal ownership like any traded company
johnny: Socialism has provisions 4 all that. It doesn’t mean every person in a country owns, for example: the shoe store, equally, .
me: would love to here how you can give someone more without creating a ruling class. How does one determine who is most deserving
johnny: Some rich guy who sits on his ass on Wall St. & owns shares of a company in Alabama is not comparable to this model.
me: well some rich guy who sits on his ass will buy these shares one day. And the 400 ppl will be happy to take his money
johnny: How is a system that rewards U by giving you way more than most people - going to work for most people?
me: the best will get the most by selling goods 2 the most ppl. Ppl give money because the goods are worth to them than the money. therefore anytime someone buys something they are wealthier than before
johnny: So if I buy some Pepsi and Skittles and cigarettes…I’m wealthier? By what standard?
me: y else would you buy it? you bought it so you decided those good meets your ends best. You gave up money that was worth less.
johnny: Cigarettes kill people. Unhealthy foods cause diabetes and heart problems, but people buy it. Are they wealthier?
me: so do cars. are you wealthier if you own a car? you think cigarettes are terrible doesnt mean someone else doesnt value them
johnny: So why don’t we sell marijuana? Why is prostitution illegal? Should ‘markets’ just control & express all our wants & needs?
me: because gov grows with each law. they want everything illegal it is the nature of socialism. yes markets should control.
he then says he is going to bed and we will continue tomorrow.
Another royal has been spawned.
Clayton -
@ Whiskey Balls
Hey, that’s great. Be sure to post the rest of it.
Since my article has recieved no love: Intellectual Property: Grasping at Thoughts