Obama/McCain/World's Leader PLS READ THIS

hi all, this is just merely my opinion. i would say its probably gonna quite random but hope readers can read carefully or understand what im trying to say, i just instantly write whats coming through.

Part1.Title : Future Prediction

more human population = more suffering most likely to occur

high unemployment rate, more ‘fake’ job sector will need to be created(especially service sector), if we still depend heavily on monetary system just imagine theres 2 main level going on. 1st on is the human population which is like office workers, IT industry, engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc etc.. which this part generates most amount of activity as well as massive cash flow.

2nd level would be related with the most basic survival of human race, which is farmer, food production related. unfortunately at this level the activity is kinda low, cash flow is not active as the 1st level. even if gov can force 50% of world’s human population to get into agricultural, mind you the land in this world are limited & theres no way either we can cut off all the trees to grow crops/food.

in the end, the only ways to control this is inflation! we have to give excuses saying everything price has gone up just to enable the people in 1st level do not have big buying power, so that other people also have chance to buy what they want. however no matter what your money is backed up by either gold/oil , diamond or even alien’s poo it will be worthless in someday!

in fact, in school we learn how to compete with each other, then grow up also compete with others see which one has bigger house, bigger car, more buying power, etc etc.. this is gonna be doomsday in progress!!!

conclusion : infinite human needs and wants, in a world of finite resources, the only way to preserve those finite resources is STOP SEEKING economic growth.

Part 2. What do u want from gov

this is merely my opinion(doesnt know anything about economy) how is the world’s future would be like or would gov do something similar like this to achieve status of developed/mature country?

1.)- gov should have “Free Energy” research department, the main task is to invent a completely clean energy that does not harm the environment at all. this is very important as it will revolutionize the way economy & social works in next few century, perhaps forever as long as human still exist.

  • for eg: the gov can come up with a “free energy device” (today, we call it as battery. but its has far more potential than a battery) this ‘device’ or this type of ‘power source’ will be able to change people’s way of life. the ‘power source’ can be use in automation process, industrial work, home electricity usage, etc etc..

2.)- but for now, gov should have focus more on agricultural sector. what i mean is it isnt just a traditional way of growing crops, or farming. but actually can completely revolutionize the agricultural sector. the next step needed should be have another “automation or robot research” gov department. the main job is creates/invent machine that will be able to completely replace the job of a farmer. sure we all know these mechanical/robot will require some source of power to operate, thats why i have intially suggest “free energy device” will come in use to operate the require machine.

assume, robotic technology will be advanced enough to completely replace farmer’s job, agricultural sector, growing plants, thus will drastically reduce the basis cost of food price, no more lack of food supply as there is no such thing ppl in the country starve.

3.) next step probably those advanced robot invention will be able to replace into service sector/low level job/cleaner/janitor, factory worker, machine operator, mining, taxi/ bus driver, delivery boy, etc etc..

4.) computer/ AI intelligence, will work together with human, implementing, replace AI brains into higher types of management job, supervisor, robot policemen, robot nurse, sales, helpdesk bot, robot clerk, robot secterary, robot admin, etc etc..

at this point, what does human do if robot has almost replace all our traditional job? the solution is pretty straightforward actually, when we’re at the stage where almost all the job has been replaced by robot, we actually no longer need to rely so heavily on the monetary economy system to survive, our basic need, like food, medical will be done by robots, and we are at the stage where robot is working/support the survival of mankind. as a human being, this is the greatest time where u dont need to worry about lack of money and such, youre free to become what you want, if you like painting, just go become painter, if like soccer, just become professional football player, musician, turn your hobby into career, pro skater, pro gamer, etc etc.. as you could imagine.

while the smarter human one, can become philosopher, thinker? brain-storming, scientist, developer, engineer, researcher, astronaut, can build your own spaceship, this is the stage where human can actually trying to turn startrek movie into reality, bcoz we can get the basic needs, such as equipments, processed raw material from those working robots, and we use it to build spaceship, anti-gravity vechicle, travel at speed of light, as long as you want to build/invent what you like, that has become your job.

humankind will be able to travel to moons, mars, build happiest themepark on moons, university on mars, or even spend your life travel in space, exploring universe, establish contact with “alien?” travelling to another solar system, build another civilization on Mars, at this stage, human can considered as in star trek movie dreams come true, and human perhaps.. humankind has living in the same world, no more countries, we are using universal currency, no more race labelling, but all humans is the same and everyone is called as Earthlings..lol

sooner, or later each family or group of ppl will be able to travel to space independently, human are so intelligent and smart already that they can survive on their own, move to any planets they want, build their own civilization, or will be able to build any dreams you like.. in my opinion, nothing is impossible anything can start from education.

Part3. Choosing a sustainable leader

how to see a person as potential leader :

  • he/she do not cares about money/wealth

  • he/she definitely not rich & materialistic

  • he/she cares about ppl’s welfare and survival

  • he/she willing to sacrifice their own personal time and money for others

  • he/she blames him/herself when something goes wrong

alright enough rambling.. bye

Good joke.

…I wish.

Wheat, corn and rice prices have more than doubled in the past two years, and oil prices have more than tripled since the start of 2004. expecting to have Global Food’s Shortage within 20years, at that time doesnt matter how much money you have everyone needs to pay a lot more than ever. thats actually equal less amount of buying power than ever b4, u thinks everyone wants that?

In 1776 the population was roughly 2.5 million and in 2008 is about 305 million.

I think you already know whether real GDP per capita has increased or decreased since then.

Friend, this is the Austrian School. Everything you posted, is from some other perspective, wildly out of tune with what we discuss here.

  • Most of us want zero government.
  • Most of us believe the market can solve issues of shortages.
  • I haven’t yet met anyone here that is into Eugenics.

@ SolidC - GDP is meaningless in a statist inflationary economy.

These are the worst one.

I AGREE!

You starve yourself first and I’ll follow.

Now to your points:

lol, i thought the point was to stop production… why offer *** for free, that’ll just lead to more consumption/economic growth.

This is proposterous, we need pollution to kill off a % of the population to keep the earth from over crowding and destabilize the market. Stop thinking progressively!

WTF? WE NEED LESS FOOD SO WE CAN STARVE THE POOR AND CLEAN UP OUR OVERCROWDED CITIES!

But then we’ll need people programming the robots and things, and designing the circuit boards and processors… and these things require specialized education. This leads to economic productivity which we didn’t want, remember?

Actually, we should build robotic warlords to kill off humanity and lessen our productive growth.

What the hell’s a “sustainable leader”? Do they lead 24/7 without sleeping? That’d be badass.

not if you index it to the m2/3

of course it doesn’t measure the wealth of the market, but it does (mostly) measure the production.

Android.

I don’t even believe it measures production. How much of the US’s GDP is military and government spending, and how much of it produces nothing, because it is not susceptible to competition and market forces?

I think GDP is a worthless figure, and I use every opportunity I can to point that out to laymen.

Wow.

Take a deep breath, slow down. Download some of the free PDFs (Mises, Rothbard, Hoppe etc) from the media section, do some reading, and maybe take a few English lessons.

Then come back and post something that isn’t an unintelligable stream of consciousness. Thanks.

“but for now, gov should have focus more on agricultural sector. what i mean is it isnt just a traditional way of growing crops, or farming. but actually can completely revolutionize the agricultural sector”

Hey, we could call it the Great Leap Forward!

Are you quite done yet? Good. The only thing the government “needs” to do is crawl away and die. That is it. Nothing more.

-Jon

Stop seeking ‘economic growth’ actually means expansion of economy which actually i means like abandoned construction project, build up too much businesses but not useful(money laundering activities), not using recycled material on construction project, ridiculous maintainence cost, causing bad environment, pollution & etc etc.. i know there r so many people making wild speculation about this, but pls dont misunderstood. my main idea is how we suppose able to create a better world without wasting so many natural resources as it is limited. i also didnt say have to going back to stone age, but using modern technologies that can help our jobs easier and sooner it has the ability to support the basic survival of human being. when the supplement has been able to replaced by machines, human actually doesnt need to rely too heavily on monetary system anymore, by then human can move up a higher level of jobs, or turn hobby into jobs & such

another scenario :

just imagine all the buidings and houses we see today, in 50 years from now.. probably need to demolish all of them because its getting too old and maybe not safe to use/stay anymore.

after blow it up, its pile and piles of trash.. where does those rubbish have to go? dont you think wouldnt it is better if somehow or someway we can reuse the material and for build a new building? what im seeing now is the landfill keeps piling up and we seriously facing finite resources very soon

You’re silly.

Why don’t “we” (i.e. you) come up with ways to recycle this trash then at an economically efficient level? And then see if anyone values the service.

-Jon

another scenario :

just imagine all the buidings and houses we see today, in 50 years from now.. probably need to demolish all of them because its getting too old and maybe not safe to use/stay anymore. after blow it up, its pile and piles of trash.. where does those rubbish have to go? dont you think wouldnt it is better if somehow or someway we can reuse the material and for build a new building? what im seeing now is the landfill keeps piling up and we seriously facing finite resources very soon

edited : this is what i actually means by stop seeking ‘economic growth’ not the type you think

Ohhhh…of course! When you say “stop seeking economic growth” you mean that we should all be satisfied with living in delapodated houses and working in unsafe buildings.

As capital goods and consumer goods depreciate and we have to get rid of them, your solution is not to build new ones. The end result being that we would never invest and never consume.

Your argument is pure rubbish, despite being entertaining to read.

Indeed. C+I+G+X-M = a load of rubbish.