Unemployment is by no means a safe measure of an “excess supply of people”.
Consider for a second a world where all work is done by friendly robots, and people can devote all their time to leisure.
I want to reply that in such societies, only robot creators and programmers are in demand. The rest are oversupply. Unless, you like democracy (which is not too bad). The role of everyone else will be to protect or vote for the interests of the productive and enjoy their welfare check. It still means that most people that don’t operate robots will be superfluous.
In fact, that’s how our world works now. Blue collar works are just overly supplied.
The purpose of the thread is to point out that poverty is a choice. It happens because poor people keep breeding. Giving them incentive not to breed will greatly reduce tax, welfare, etc. Not to mention population born out of financially responsible dad are more likely to vote for even less welfare.
Crazy in a sense of not boring and outside the box? C’mon. Everything else is regurtitated so many times.
Anyway, what does it mean by per page? It’s 2 different thread?
Okay I met some quota. What are the other 2 threads?
Look you want to lower your taxcheck? Give ganja to those parasites so they don’t breed. In fact, I think it can be done privately. Less kids with poor dad, less tax.
What’s so crazy about it? You’d rather pay for their kids’ tuition, and then jail expenses, etc?
Art of war in 13 chapters say give your enemies hope of life.
The bible says give wine to those who are desperate.
What’s exploitation? Everyone exploit one another. It’s how humans mind works. Some do it benignly in win win way. The libtard proposes that all ways are done.
No I mean, what is the link to the exploitation thread.
Also, I am not sure what’s so crazy about it.
Government restrict freedom in subtle ways. They don’t tell you to do C. They just prohibit this and that. Any game theorists would agree that it’s equivalent with forcing you to do C.
Imagine if I put gun in your head and say you can’t get out unless you give me your wallet. Am I forcing you to give wallet? Of course.
That’s what government does. It prohibits prostitution. Seems sublte enough. But then prostitution is defined to be exchange of sex for consideration. That’s a very wide net.
Such huge blanket prohibition is effectively enforcement of next best alternative. That’s how government force people to get married. That’s how government forced itself to be the pimp of all sexual relationship.
That’s how government ration females in equal share for everyone. That’s how poor assholes like Jammie Cumming have 17 children while billionaires that do that will be bankcrupted by child support laws. That’s how tax go up and up.
Responding to the original post, we have unlimited desires, so by the time we have machines doing all the current work we do, we’ll have come up with many times more things we’d like done that machines can’t yet do. Just consider the people who own the machines that feed the world; they can trade the food for services from the rest of the people.
This is my main idea. The worst of the worst trade restrictions are those that heavily affect our utility function.
That is, restriction on reproductive and sex trade.
We’re not equally smart, rich, handsome, pretty. We do not want children to the same amount. Yet we are expected to produce the same number of children. Moreoever, the poorest among us actually produce more children.
Not only that, those who want children least produce children. I know they don’t want children because they commit abortion rather than going to fertility clinic.
This is what I thin is the biggest market distortion ever. Everything else is miniscule if this gets taken care of.
If government spend $10k per year for some welfare dude with 5 children, I think it make sense for government (or us) to spend $1k per year to buy ganja for that same dude so he doesn’t have children at all. You know what I am saying?
That depends on how you qualify emulating it. A current computer could run a program that essentially thinks like a human. It’s a question of resolution/time.
No, I was just going along with their scenario where we automate everything humans currently do. I don’t think machines will ever replace some human tasks. I also don’t think we’ll ever make something like us, because I don’t think we’re merely self-contained bio computers, and I don’t think that fate has it in the cards either.
This whole “thinks like a human” thing is quite complicated. The brain microstructure has a lot of hardwired circuitry that we still don’t understand and that affects how we think.
So even if we can design A.I systems that adapt to data feeds it doesn’t mean they are thinking like humans.
And the way intelligent machines evolve is not the way our brains evolve, because these machines are used to solve other problems than those problems that shaped the human brain.
But as far as the problem of reverse engineering the human brain goes, there seems to be reason to expect that developments in nanotechnology, imagery and computer architecture following Moore’s law of exponential increase in complexity and that this will eventually lead in a near future to a system that showcases the basic same functionalities and behaves much alike (that is, passing the Turing Test).
This of course is a subject of some controversy.
Keep in mind I’m no cognitive scientist, and my experience with AI technology is restricted to a simple neural-network schemes and statistical learning algos I had to implement for a financial data project.
But these outlines are based on the arguments presented in “The age of intelligent machines” and “The age of spiritual machines” by Ray Kurzweil, and also “Mind Children” and “Robot” by Hans Moravec.
And this assumes that we’re just isolated computers walking around. What if there is a “cloud” that we tap into as well, where isolated we’d be like a modern cell phone without cell/data service? As for the manifestation of the cloud, there’s an enormous of entropy in the positions and velocities of matter all around us, constantly moving around (“heat”). “Oh, but it’s all random.” is what one would say when examining any modern efficient data communications/storage medium.