very small cost actually, although if it offends someone who contributes as much as you then I would say the cost is greater.
if we discuss the new deal, regulation, min wage, and govt spending we can change people’s minds on those subjects and then they will know better. If we change people’s minds on the idea that asians are good at math then we get labeled racists and they think we need asian central bankers. And we still have to tackle the new deal.
Well I can’t really know the exact effects that seeing such a discussion will have on everyone. I think it would attract some people who see through the PC crap but don’t have anything more substantial to go on. But perhaps the USA is so much more hysterical about race than where I live (which is 95% white, with most of the rest being from Asia, India, or the Middle East - and still a pretty hysterical country about racism) so the dynamics are different. Still I think most of the people who would label us racists already do.
Its not so much that your “average” american is that freaked out about race, its just the tension has been fomented by the past four years of race-baiting and the institute doesnt want to give anybody any excuses. And owing to the onslaught of information its hard to explain why someone should spend more than 10 seconds investigating something new when it can be smeared “neoconfederate” in tha time. Fast moving world out there.
this only applies to people older than 30 or idiots. I’m pretty sure kids are past all of that, owing to the cultural mixing I see.
Adam Kokesh made the point in one of his videos that all anyone has to do these days is shout “RACIST!” and any argument, intelligent or not, is shut down.
Well I’m pretty sure that the ‘neoconfederate’ smears come from the promotion of nullification and secession, as well as opposition to big government welfare state policies that supposedly help black people (but actually don’t). See my point stands: you are labelled racist even if you have said nothing about race.
Well here we don’t even need to wait for someone to shout “racist” in order to shut down arguments: the Mises Institute is happy to shut things down beforehand (and I say this as someone who has donated money to the Mises Institute).
You’re right, but I don’t really feel that having one thread debating the existence of something that can be called race is doing all that much. I also think the instant deletion of the thread was a very poor way to handle it, and the mod who did it has still not shown himself here.
These forums are kind of like a garden of ideas and…thats all I got but they are like something else that explains this whole situation. Whateverit is.
In 1848, the city marshall of Boston was ordered to find out how many truants and vagrants there were in Boston. He found 1,066 children between the ages of 6 and 16 who were either vagrant or truant Considering the fact that in 1849 the total enrollment in Boston’s public schools was 20,589, the truants amounted to about 5%. In other words, withoutcompulsory attendance laws,95%of the city’s children were attending school.
Is it free of arbitrary power-tripping moderation? This clown guy sanchez trying to decide what discussion is subject to moderation based on whether he feels it’s relevant in a thread he didn’t start which by definition has no specific topic. Lol.
Sure is! For example, the founder and admin of the forums said that he wouldn’t have deleted that thread on his forum. It’s free of trolls and spam too. You should join.
Daniel, yes he was powertripping. I apologize for characterizing him as a clown guy—but only if it was a violation of forum rules I agreed to when signing up, otherwise I stand by my judgment.
Hey Arristipus, I like the idea but right off the bat a few things strike me:
There’s a section for challenging admin decisions. If the designer was so sure that admins would make controversial decisions that he created an entire section for it, that worries me. If my input is valued, I think mods/admins should be restricted to doing absolutely nothing except removing real spam. Also, the idea that the challenge section is separate is related to the next thing:
There doesn’t seem to be a “View all active topics” section like here on Mises.org. This section is the one reason I find these forums valuable, it’s like a feed of what’s going on in all sections without having to check them individually, constantly—and certainly a thread in the section to challenge mod decisions would be less noticed and so less likely to gain popularity except among people who frequent that section (but the point is this is true with all sections, the point of aggrogating them is to create a community that’s not devided while the actual content is organized into different sections).
As the person who created the Voluntaryism Forum, maybe I can help.
Having been in many forums over the years, I think there’s a very good chance that people won’t see eye-to-eye at some point. It could be among the forum staff, it could be among the membership, or it could be among both. Rather than have an authoritarian “my word is law” kind of attitude, I thought it would be better to have an area for criticism of how the forum is being run. I, for one, don’t claim to be able to run a forum “perfectly” (whatever one takes that to mean).
Actually there is a “View Active Topics” link near the top left of the main forum page. In addition, forum sections that contain new posts will be marked with a different icon.
I’m not sure, to be honest. But since it’s only one text field, you don’t have to put down your full name if you don’t want to. The really interesting thing to me is that even I (the forum admin) can’t see what anyone put down as his full name.